0:01 Yevgeny Vladimirovich, in recent years,
0:04 have you found an answer for yourself as
0:06 to why the masses didn't hear your
0:08 warnings after you presented the
0:09 country's formula on a major platform?
0:13 >> Look, it was an ordinary platform.
0:18 I don't even remember where it was. We
0:20 rented a standard studio and filmed that
0:23 project there. We filmed it for two days
0:26 One day in Russian, one day in Ukrainian
0:29 , specifically so Western Ukraine would
0:33 And we broadcast it on the Nash TV
0:35 channel and on my YouTube channel.
0:41 Yes, about 4 million people watched it
0:43 on my YouTube channel, and some watched
0:46 it on the Nash YouTube channel live, but
0:48 evidently, not enough people believed
0:56 Once again, look, when people ask who is
0:58 to blame or who is actually responsible
1:00 , we are all responsible for what
1:02 happened—through our actions, inaction,
1:05 and the adequacy or inadequacy of the
1:10 Maybe I just didn't have the guts.
1:14 It felt like I was living on screen,
1:16 trying to prove my position, trying to
1:19 explain, spending tons of time and a
1:21 huge amount of money, taking it from my
1:23 family and putting it into channels and
1:32 Perhaps we had to go through this path.
1:38 Well, it's hard to realize that we lost
1:40 so much just to understand something
1:46 I mean, and even then, I can tell you,
1:48 this understanding hasn't fully arrived
1:55 are in a state of Stockholm syndrome.
2:01 You know, when victims of maniacs or
2:03 kidnappers fall in love with their
2:05 torturers and even defend them in court
2:11 Well, sometimes I still see that
2:13 Zelenskyy has some level of support.
2:16 But friends, everyone understands that
2:18 he is a charlatan without
2:26 a home, roots, flag, or homeland, who
2:29 betrayed his grandfather's history and
2:31 family values, saying one thing and
2:34 doing another—a Jew burying Greek
2:36 Catholics on the Lavra grounds, who, as
2:39 part of the auxiliary police,
2:41 annihilated over 33,000 Jews just at
2:50 How, just how can all of this fit in
2:56 And there are people who support him,
2:57 calling him their dear boy and saying
2:59 how hard he’s had it.
3:02 When they find out how much money he
3:04 stole on blood—not stealing from
3:06 construction contracts, not building
3:10 some peaceful infrastructure, but
3:12 stealing on missiles and body armor.
3:15 We heard all of that.
3:18 It’s all on tape, how Mindich forces
3:20 Umerov to buy these body armors. And
3:23 look now, Umerov is going to
3:25 negotiations. Why would Umerov go?
3:30 He made decent money on those body
3:31 armors with Zelenskyy and Mindich.
3:35 And look, if Zelenskyy doesn't agree
3:37 with this, then what is Umerov doing?
3:41 How can he even be sent to negotiations
3:45 Well, it's just absurd. His whole family
3:48 lives in Miami—his brother, wife,
3:52 Whose interests does he even represent?
3:55 And our people still haven't understood
3:58 What "Formula for the Country," how
4:00 could they have digested it? There was a
4:03 lot of dense material—an hour long.
4:07 It was a heavy product, actually.
4:11 And I spoke at a fast pace to fit it
4:13 into an hour, right?
4:15 We had the former producer of the
4:17 channel sitting there saying, "Zhenya,
4:19 make it denser, denser, denser." I was
4:22 like a drum; I felt like a drum.
4:25 So, well, it was probably difficult to
4:27 perceive, but I didn't think the "
4:29 Formula for the Country" was the
4:31 starting point, right?
4:34 It was the end of 2021; I knew there was
4:36 still a year and a half until the
4:38 elections, and I intended to expand on
4:41 every point we just piled up in the "
4:43 Formula for the Country," in those four
4:47 I planned to just expand on it later.
4:49 That is what I am trying to do now at
4:53 Let's discuss the program and go over
4:55 every single point specifically. This is
4:57 important. It is important that everyone
5:00 I also understand that not everyone
5:04 wants to do this, but once again, I
5:09 Running into the same rake is our
5:14 We didn't listen back then, we didn't
5:16 look into it, and we still don't. I am
5:18 also analyzing how people sign up and
5:22 I realize that people don't understand
5:24 the importance of their participation in
5:28 They think that, for some reason,
5:30 someone will eventually decide for them
5:32 and in their interests.
5:34 Everyone always decides in their own
5:38 Well, it's just that there are people,
5:44 act out of love and gratitude, and
5:46 others who do it for something material
5:48 , right? How do you know who is who?
5:50 How many times have we been deceived in
5:54 By profiteers, "strong economic managers
5:56 ," and everyone else under the sun.
5:59 Kuchma—well, it seemed like I didn't
6:01 understand for a long time what kind of
6:03 character he was. I actually made most
6:05 of my money back then, under Kuchma.
6:09 The national currency was more or less
6:12 stable, you could plan things,
6:13 everything was developing.
6:18 Everyone after the Soviet Union was
6:20 still not quite as bold, a bit cowardly
6:23 ; those who were pushier, more athletic
6:25 , with healthy ambitions, well, they had
6:27 a chance to earn—it was a good time,
6:30 because rebounding from the bottom when
6:32 a new system is forming is always good.
6:37 When the war ends in Ukraine, there will
6:40 also be a huge number of niches.
6:44 If we manage to attract money, attract
6:46 large industrial infrastructure projects
6:48 , and bring back citizens, it will be a
6:54 Perhaps, if it isn’t a military
6:55 parliament, if there is no revanchism,
6:58 if the goal is different—to build
7:00 something great, to create a statehood
7:02 that is truly our own.
7:05 Then it will be cool, it will also be a
7:10 That’s why, friends, we need to get
7:16 I repeat, I am watching who is writing
7:20 We are short on people. This is, among
7:22 other things, a personnel selection
7:25 Many wrote to the 2027 team, yes,
7:28 leaving their contact details and
7:30 everything else. Friends, register, show
7:35 Brains, skills—all of this is important
7:38 . And how else are we supposed to
7:41 We bring them out, we look, we talk, we
7:44 communicate afterwards, yes, we assign
7:47 tasks, we tell people what to refine,
7:51 And how else should we form a team? I
7:53 honestly don’t know; well, people were
7:55 one way yesterday, and now they are
7:57 completely different. And I don’t even
7:59 understand, are they sincere
8:03 in their heads, or are they just
8:05 surviving in this system?
8:08 But I don’t want to train them. And
8:09 honestly, I said it before, there are
8:11 many whose hands I won't be able to
8:15 Those who were there, well, they
8:17 completely destroyed themselves for me,
8:19 in my eyes at least.
8:21 They surely have their own truth.
8:24 They will tell me why they had to do it
8:26 , what they really thought, and what
8:31 Everyone makes a choice. Everyone makes
8:36 I mean, I could have also gone out,
8:38 renounced everything I considered
8:40 important, and played along.
8:42 I had a bunch of offers like that.
8:45 I chose not to get caught, to get my
8:47 family out, and to stay true to myself
8:49 from abroad, losing everything I had.
8:55 If I have arguments like, "Listen, I
8:57 just had to survive somehow."
8:59 I chose a different path. For me, that
9:01 won’t be an argument.
9:04 That’s why I am looking at the new
9:05 people right now, among others.
9:10 Therefore, I hope we gather real people
9:12 , teach them how to think, teach them
9:14 how to work and propose ideas, and we
9:16 will have a core that can build things
9:21 And the formula, the formula is no
9:23 longer relevant. The world has changed
9:28 I mean, if Ukraine back then could have
9:30 prevented all these changes or made them
9:32 without such losses.
9:36 I spoke about a Greater Europe and
9:38 Ukraine's place in it.
9:43 Now, as we witness the phased formation
9:45 of a Greater Europe or the Global North
9:48 , it will be even more painful to
9:50 realize that we lost so many people, so
9:52 many opportunities, and most importantly
10:00 5 years of war, I believe, is lost time
10:03 for millions of people.
10:06 Time that turned into a tragedy for many
10:10 A time that has forever changed the face
10:12 of both the country and the Ukrainians,
10:14 including their moral qualities.
10:21 is probably also a place for heroism,
10:24 yes, but it is usually fatal, yes,
10:27 excuse me, posthumous.
10:31 But it is definitely a testing ground
10:33 for meanness, betrayal, and cynicism of
10:36 the highest degree.
10:39 Therefore, war does not make people
10:41 better. It tempers them, yes.
10:52 But I don't think these are the best
10:54 qualities, actually.
10:56 Therefore, it is a tragedy in any case,
10:58 and it would have been better without it
11:00 , of course, it would have been better
11:02 according to the formula, but history
11:04 has no subjunctive mood.
11:08 My friends, two hours and 12 minutes, 15
11:12 I see. Let's take three more questions
11:17 Misha from Seven Gan. Evgeny
11:19 Vladimirovich, what will happen to NABU
11:23 My friends, we are not sovereign actors
11:27 Not me, not you, not Zelensky.
11:30 Zelensky tried to get rid of NABU.
11:34 He was quickly explained, through
11:36 internal, well, formed mechanisms, who
11:39 he is, who Yermak is, who
11:43 his entire entourage is, yes.
11:46 He betrayed everyone because he was in
11:51 And he chose his own well-being,
11:53 disregarding the interests of the entire
11:55 rest of the top team.
11:58 He got scared. He is really, I have said
12:01 many times that he is a coward. And in
12:03 this context, the words about the
12:05 Taliban took on completely different
12:09 That is, the former Prime Minister of
12:12 Israel said that Zelensky came out of
12:14 the bunker after Putin guaranteed the
12:16 safety of Zelensky's life to the Prime
12:18 Minister of Israel.
12:22 And Naftali Bennett called Zelensky, and
12:24 after that, he came out and said, "I'm
12:26 satisfied here, Yermak is here, someone
12:28 else is here," and they were all there
12:31 because nothing threatened them.
12:36 In the same way, they are explaining to
12:38 him now what will happen to him, so he
12:40 is surrendering both the sovereignty and
12:42 his own team and his loved ones just so
12:44 they don't touch him.
12:50 Therefore, the fate and future of NABU
12:52 can only be decided by the high
12:54 contracting parties of the peace treaty
12:58 I do not believe in the future
13:04 in a future security architecture if
13:06 Ukraine is deprived of its sovereignty.
13:09 Well, can you imagine between, uh,
13:12 imagine the CIS countries,
13:17 CIS countries, Europe, and here, yes, a
13:19 hotbed of tension, which is controlled
13:22 from somewhere in a third place, from
13:27 Everything is boiling under the lid
13:29 there, it has five neighboring countries
13:39 it can splash out like boiling water,
13:41 yes, onto all its neighbors. Well, well
13:44 , it cannot be like that. That is, order
13:46 needs to be restored in Ukraine. How to
13:48 restore this order, I wrote on November
13:51 22nd, '25 in Telegram. Please subscribe
13:54 to YouTube, to Telegram.
13:57 Everything is in the description of this
13:59 channel, yes, what you can subscribe to
14:03 Let's not lose touch.
14:06 On November 22nd, I wrote what will
14:08 return sovereignty and make the country
14:13 And there, the return, a, of the state
14:16 monopoly, the return of institutionality
14:19 to Ukraine, yes, the return of its
14:21 sovereignty, this means the
14:23 de-installation of NABU, SAPO, and all
14:25 sorts of supervisory boards in
14:27 state-owned companies.
14:31 That is, all foreign influence.
14:36 These people pursue the interests of the
14:38 countries they represent.
14:40 They do not represent the interests of
14:42 Ukraine, they are harming us.
14:45 And accordingly, until we clean them out
14:47 , it is impossible to talk about Ukraine
14:49 being prosperous and independent.
14:52 But only Russia and the States can solve
14:54 this by reaching an agreement. And
14:56 precisely within the framework of a
14:58 peaceful settlement.
15:01 I constantly draw attention to the
15:03 construct of an external management
15:05 vertical in my broadcasts in the hope
15:07 that it is watched by different parties
15:09 , yes, including those influencing the
15:11 future of our country.
15:19 They may be writing analytical reports,
15:21 and those who are actually involved and
15:24 are subjects of the negotiations will be
15:26 informed of the concerns, yes, and the
15:28 real reasons why their, a, agreements
15:31 could be disrupted, including due to the
15:33 fact that there are such people as Fiala
15:36 , such people as, a, Prytula, such
15:38 people as Sternenko, this entire
15:49 And they are agents of foreign influence
15:51 and will not serve Ukraine and will not
15:53 uphold agreements, and they couldn't
15:55 care less about the general world order
15:57 ; they will carry out, a,
16:07 tasks that will be assigned to them at
16:08 that moment by the people who will be
16:13 So, I repeat once again, yes,
16:15 institutionally NABU, SAPO, and the HACC
16:18 are oriented toward the FBI, but that is
16:21 in strategic subordination.
16:25 In situational and operational
16:27 activities, I don't think the FBI
16:29 controls what they are doing there every
16:34 Well, there are branches, there are
16:37 funds from which remuneration is paid to
16:39 NABU detectives, and he also solves some
16:45 And who assigns tasks to him?
16:47 Well, one can only guess.
16:51 Definitely not the USA as a state entity
16:53 ; some parts of its elites and the
16:55 interests of the state, unfortunately
16:58 for the elites, sometimes diverge.
17:03 And therefore, this is a threat not only
17:06 to Ukraine but also to the agreements
17:08 reached between the USA and the Russian
17:13 I really hope that this thought will be
17:15 conveyed and that all of this will be
17:23 Otherwise, this is all a risk zone, it
17:25 is a gray zone that could erupt into
17:27 another conflict with unpredictable
17:29 beneficiaries of this story.
17:36 Andrey Risky. Evgeny, what sectors of
17:38 Ukraine's economy do you think will
17:40 survive after the peace agreements? I
17:43 don't know which ones are actually alive
17:47 I understand it as the client is more
17:49 dead than alive, as the saying goes.
17:54 We are a state on a ventilator.
17:57 That is, mechanical ventilation of the
18:02 We do not live by budget laws, we do not
18:04 live by the Constitution, we live, uh,
18:07 by the laws of a dictatorship, with
18:15 compensatory mechanism for all budget
18:18 deficits by the main beneficiaries of
18:20 the war, Europe and the United States.
18:23 Well, they have distanced themselves for
18:25 now, but that’s not important.
18:27 One way or another, they decide whether
18:29 to allow Europe to finance it or not. I
18:31 mean, as long as finances are still
18:34 coming in, as I said, earmarking 90 is
18:36 not the same as giving it.
18:40 It’s a promise, it’s giving Trump cards
18:42 for negotiations, but in reality, they
18:44 are allocating pennies.
18:52 And these pennies just cover basic
18:54 subsistence, support, and salaries, but
18:56 offer no prospects for ending the
18:58 conflict, its development, or its
19:00 transition into a more understandable
19:02 stage in terms of Ukraine’s defense
19:10 So, it’s purely for maintenance.
19:17 sectors of the economy are an absolutely
19:19 conditional concept.
19:22 Metallurgy has stalled, the export of
19:25 agriculture, minerals, ore, and coal has
19:28 stopped; there are no ports.
19:31 I don’t know what is alive.
19:34 Retail, services—but in reality, they
19:37 tell us that, just think about it, our
19:40 GDP in wartime is higher than it was
19:46 Half the country has left, everything is
19:48 destroyed, energy is super expensive,
19:51 industry after industry is shutting down
19:53 , yet GDP is growing. Who believes this
19:58 But it’s necessary to grant loans, to
20:00 pretend that the client is more alive
20:02 than dead. But that is not the case.
20:05 That’s why we discussed at the forum
20:07 that the first thing to do is an audit.
20:10 An audit of debts, an audit of
20:11 industries, personnel, everything,
20:14 everything, everything.
20:17 Without this, to make a diagnosis or
20:19 forecast something real—there’s one guy
20:21 in the forum writing, "I want to see
20:23 Murayev’s program."
20:28 Well, look, if you have a patient, will
20:31 you just stick a finger up his backside
20:33 to make a diagnosis, or will you
20:35 actually conduct a full check-up?
20:38 How can you understand what’s happening
20:40 with the country without understanding
20:42 the situation with industries, personnel
20:44 , the number of people with disabilities
20:46 , those who have died, and what our
20:48 demographics are in general?
20:50 Do you seriously think that something
20:56 You can develop a basic program,
20:58 identify sectoral goals, determine
21:00 principles for some kind of development
21:02 , but to create a real program without a
21:05 diagnosis, to prescribe treatment
21:07 without even understanding
21:12 the symptoms, without understanding
21:15 anything—only demagogues can do that.
21:18 Therefore, we need to wait, we need to
21:24 only then understand how to get out of
21:28 It is clear that there are problems with
21:30 energy, it is clear who can solve them,
21:32 it is clear which transnational projects
21:35 can be developed immediately with China
21:37 , with the Arab world, right?
21:41 My friends, I have said many times, I
21:43 spent three years very systematically on
21:46 a huge number of meetings so that no one
21:48 would have any doubts.
21:51 Everything is captured on video. You
21:59 dozens of companies I have negotiated
22:01 with, what I negotiated, what I agreed
22:04 on, what they promised, what they have
22:06 already outlined, how they see it, what
22:08 they will agree to, if Ukraine
22:10 guarantees peace, stability, reasonable
22:13 governance, and not uh telling us that
22:22 we will reward them with power.
22:24 One comrade already told you, let's ban
22:27 fifteen-year-olds from leaving, yet you
22:29 reward them with power.
22:32 They won't give money to a Ukraine like
22:35 And they won't supply anything here.
22:38 Money loves stability, silence, and a
22:40 guarantee of return.
22:44 If the ideas are revanchism, that's
22:48 And you don't even need to do any audit
22:51 This is fratricide.
22:53 The whole world will wall itself off
22:55 from us and wait until Galicia crawls
22:57 toward Poland, and the Southeast toward
23:07 we may yet become witnesses to all of
23:11 Therefore, it is better to discuss and
23:13 talk things through to prevent yet
23:17 I will remind you once again, we are
23:19 international-class masters of
23:21 speed-running into rakes.
23:23 That is us. This, well, has been proven
23:26 repeatedly. Last question. Irina
23:29 Berantsy. Hello, I am interested in one
23:32 Why do the Russian authorities agree to
23:34 peace talks time after time?
23:37 After all, all previous ones, starting
23:39 with Minsk, eventually turn out to be
23:50 >> I already have high treason,
23:54 calls for the overthrow of the
23:55 constitutional order,
24:04 inciting—I am translating from Ukrainian
24:07 —international hatred,
24:16 justification of the aggression of the
24:18 Russian Federation.
24:20 And now you, well, they won't open a
24:22 criminal case against me for this
24:24 article a second time.
24:26 The Russians did not want war.
24:30 For eight years, the Russians tried to
24:32 force Poroshenko and Zelensky to
24:34 implement Minsk, to push Donbas into
24:37 Ukraine by any means necessary.
24:49 It was immediately accepted into the
24:51 Russian Federation. Donbas. Referendum.
24:54 Was Donbas accepted into the Russian
24:56 Federation after the referendum?
24:59 No. And they didn't intend to.
25:02 And they didn't want to.
25:04 And there was Minsk one, then Minsk two
25:06 , these endless meetings.
25:10 Look, Minsk was written out in points,
25:12 the first, the second, up to the twelfth
25:17 Tell me, please, when you write a
25:20 schedule—first, 7:00 AM wake up, 7:20,
25:27 then toilet, shower, yes, breakfast.
25:31 Well, you write the points in the order
25:33 they should be done.
25:34 You can't brush your teeth before you've
25:38 And for you, point one means it is first
25:40 , and twelve means it is last.
25:43 For eight years, Ukraine argued that the
25:46 ninth point should come before the third
25:51 So the entire discussion was, the
25:53 question—why were they written in that
25:58 Well, probably to be carried out in that
26:00 order. No, Ukraine says not so. How
26:03 about we do it this way here? But you
26:06 And this is an action plan, yes,
26:08 regarding the initiatives of Poroshenko
26:12 The title of that text was just huge.
26:20 For eight years she tried to squeeze it
26:23 in, didn't want to fight, persuaded
26:25 Biden in Geneva, warned Zelensky many
26:27 times, and built up the grouping.
26:32 It stood at the borders for 8 months.
26:35 It stood at the borders for eight months
26:37 . I don’t, well, eight, I don't think
26:43 All the intelligence services told
26:45 Zelensky that war was coming. Everyone
26:47 understood that there would be a war.
26:50 Planes with military aid were landing in
26:52 Kyiv, everyone understood it would
26:58 So this wasn't something spontaneous.
27:01 I mean, they brought them out, built an
27:03 army, met in Geneva, and stated the plan
27:06 . And everyone understands, right, if an
27:08 army is standing there and there's a
27:10 plan. Let's sign a new security
27:14 Because if we don't sign it, well, the
27:16 gun will go off in the third act, right
27:18 , in the third act. It was obvious,
27:21 And tell me, why did the Russians need a
27:25 Where did the Russians vacation, where
27:27 did they spend money, whose wine did
27:30 they drink, whose brands did they wear,
27:33 But they were with every fiber, where do
27:35 their children study?
27:38 In Saratov or in London and everything
27:41 But they integrated with every fiber of
27:44 their soul into the European agenda.
27:46 Thank God, not into the values, but into
27:49 this lifestyle, into this consumerism,
27:57 Talk about the heritage of the Soviet
27:59 Union. No, it is not a socialist country
28:03 Russia is a capitalist country with a
28:05 capitalist structure.
28:07 They understood that war would mean
28:09 being cut off from everything.
28:12 Well, there were just existential
28:16 I mean, to take this step, they just had
28:19 to be forced, well, just to be dragged
28:24 And I explained, yes, Europe's green
28:29 So it was clear beforehand that this was
28:31 preparation, this was luring them in.
28:35 We won't give Ukraine weapons, and then
28:38 they lured the Russians into another
28:39 half-trillion trap.
28:42 They were clearly confident that they
28:44 would handle it faster and that nothing
28:46 would help, but everyone was wrong, and
28:48 it’s a common tragedy.
28:54 why are they negotiating? Because they
28:56 don't want this war.
28:59 Because for them, Ukraine is not
29:01 Zelensky, Ukraine is not Azov or the 3rd
29:03 Assault Brigade, and Ukrainians are not
29:09 And I am not just talking about this,
29:12 believe me, I have many Russian
29:16 I am here in Beijing, just so you
29:18 understand, I have both Russians and
29:20 Ukrainians on my team.
29:23 And they communicate perfectly well.
29:25 Because people are not enemies of people
29:29 Zelensky is a construct.
29:33 Zelensky is just another agent of
29:35 influence, recruited, blackmailed, a
29:37 puppet carrying out tasks.
29:41 Look, I will be accused again of making
29:46 Today Chmut said that when the war ends
29:48 , the people of Ukraine will realize
29:50 that the Europeans are the enemies.
29:54 And what if we then, together with the
29:56 Russians, go after Europe. You’re an
29:58 idiot, you spent five years telling
30:03 where the enemy is.
30:05 Look, these are the real enemies.
30:07 Do you think they didn’t understand that
30:11 They understood, but they were making
30:13 money, and they used slogans to tell you
30:15 how you need to fight for independence
30:22 he has a foundation, right, "Come Back
30:25 Look, 20%of the money that went into his
30:28 foundation from your donations, he kept
30:30 for the foundation's operations.
30:34 For his own dear self, for those who
30:37 work at this foundation, for salaries,
30:39 for travel, and for everything else.
30:44 20%of your donations is his happy life.
30:49 If you donated a billion to him, he kept
30:51 200 million for himself.
30:54 Just like Prytula, just like Sternenko.
30:57 So that you don't misunderstand or have
31:00 So that you later understand why
31:02 Sternenko is in a $ 300,000 Range Rover
31:05 So that it would be simply obvious to
31:14 I am not making excuses. I repeat, I
31:17 understand the cause-and-effect
31:20 I understand who pushed us into this war
31:24 I spent a lot of time, energy, and money
31:26 to prevent it, explaining why Minsk was
31:32 I was against the Maidan. We lost Crimea
31:34 because of the Maidan, because of the
31:36 Maidan and the attempts to, uh,
31:41 tear up the Kharkiv agreements and kick
31:43 the Russian fleet out of Crimea.
31:48 The Russian fleet has been in Crimea
31:50 since the victory in the Russo-Turkish
31:52 War, from the very beginning
31:57 of Crimea becoming part of the Russian
31:59 Empire—not Ukraine, part of the Russian
32:04 From the very first day that Crimea was
32:07 in our cultural and state, in our
32:09 cultural and state space, Russian ships
32:14 Therefore, no Turchynov, Avakov, or
32:17 Yatsenyuk could kick them out of there
32:19 on the wave of a, uh,
32:25 bloody armed coup d'état under any
32:32 And I, in parliament—you could check the
32:34 meetings of the Committee on Foreign
32:36 Affairs, I was the deputy head of the
32:38 committee—I told Shevchenko, a professor
32:40 from some Lviv university from the
32:42 Svoboda party, quite frankly, when he
32:44 was talking about how we would denounce
32:46 the Kharkiv agreements, I told him how
32:54 That it would end in either war with
32:56 Russia, but that Russian ships would
32:58 never leave Crimea at all, not ever.
33:01 Which, for the most part, is exactly
33:03 what happened. Meaning, a politician’s
33:10 Your freedom ends where the freedom of
33:12 another person begins.
33:17 And if you are weaker, you must
33:18 understand what will happen if you step
33:20 on Klitschko’s foot and spit in his face
33:24 Well, can you guess what will happen?
33:26 Why do you think it should be any
33:28 different between countries?
33:31 It was predictable.
33:33 So, to complain that, oh, we wanted to
33:36 cause harm, we had the right, we’re so
33:38 free, but now we have no country—only
33:41 morons could do that.
33:44 And if you let these morons into power
33:46 once more, guys, that’s a clinical
33:48 diagnosis, and it will end exactly the
33:53 You have to earn your country.
33:57 The right to sovereignty and statehood
34:03 And not necessarily with weapons in hand
34:05 , you just need to understand how it
34:07 works and avoid mistakes that lead to
34:09 the loss of the happiness we all once
34:16 Therefore, my friends, first of all, I
34:18 believe in negotiations.
34:21 Of course, not in Abu Dhabi, not those
34:27 I am sure that the general lines have
34:29 already been outlined, but we need the
34:31 ritual dances, the beating of drums, we
34:33 need the curtain, and we need the
34:38 We are in a political theater.
34:41 That is, there will still be things that
34:44 will, one way or another, legitimize the
34:46 processes that have already taken place
34:49 , while some processes are still in the
34:51 preparation, completion, and
34:53 finalization stages of the agreements.
34:58 So, all that’s left is to wait and be
35:01 patient for a little while; those who
35:03 are tired of hiding, just hang in there
35:08 Those who are in the risk zone, well, be
35:10 careful and take care of yourselves.
35:14 I will see you on Monday in the forum
35:18 If you have any questions, write to me
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35:28 Let’s finally move in a constructive
35:31 Take care of yourselves. Hugs. Talk to