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Col. Macgregor: Section 219 'tantamount to treason'; is Trump's Israel aid cut real?
Col. Macgregor: Section 219 Is "Tantamount to Treason" | Is Trump's Israel Aid Cut Real?
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“I think the Russians in particular will always be uh polite, but how many times do you have to be burned?”
I think the Russians in particular will always be uh polite, but how many times do you have to be burned?
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Transcript (en, 641 lines)
0:00 What impact is this going to have on the
0:02 ongoing relationship between the United
0:04 States and Israel? Still a substantial
0:06 number of the leadership in the
0:08 Democratic Party are still very much
0:09 getting money from Apac and from other
0:12 Israeli related places.
0:13 >> I think for those of us who have worked
0:15 hard on that alliance, we understand the
0:17 degree to which it contributes to the
0:19 safety of the American people. At the
0:21 Heritage Foundation, we support phasing
0:23 out the security assistance to Israel,
0:25 making that more joint investments in
0:27 our mutual security. Yesterday,
0:29 President Trump again went out and said,
0:31 "Yeah, hey, we're going to stop this
0:33 money to the Israel. We're going to stop
0:34 this three four billion dollars we've
0:36 been giving them every year because
0:37 we're a more mature relationship." Now,
0:39 what she was referring to there was this
0:41 section 219 in the House meshing of the
0:44 militaries. Is that better or worse for
0:46 the American people than the three to
0:48 four billion we have been giving them?
0:50 >> Well, first of all, I don't think we've
0:52 seen the end of the billions of dollars
0:54 that are formally transferred by the
0:56 United States government to Israel. You
0:59 know, that's there's just no evidence
1:01 that that's going to happen. This is
1:02 something else. Trump can say whatever
1:03 he wants. He has no control over the
1:06 CIA. We've demonstrated that pretty
1:08 conclusively. If he thinks he's just
1:10 going to defund Israel because right now
1:13 it is politically advantageous for him
1:15 to distance himself, at least publicly,
1:17 from the Israeli problem, uh, that's
1:20 fine. It's meaningless. So, I, you know,
1:22 that's just, that's just empty rhetoric.
1:25 I wouldn't pay any attention to it. I
1:26 think what she says though is really
1:29 very important. First of all, if you
1:30 want to understand the Heritage
1:31 Foundation, the people that are over
1:32 there and why they take the positions
1:34 they do, look at who contributes money
1:36 to the Heritage Foundation. The people
1:39 that contribute money are the ones
1:41 shaping policy. Now, there's an old
1:44 expression, he who has the gold rules
1:46 the world. That's some people say, well,
1:49 that's an oversimplification. Not
1:50 really. There's a lot more truth to that
1:52 than people realize. And if you've got
1:55 enough money and you pour enough of it
1:56 in, then you you dictate who ultimately
1:59 is employed at your respective
2:00 foundation,
2:02 whether it's Brookings or the Heritage
2:04 Foundation or the American Enterprise
2:06 Institute or anywhere else or KO, you
2:09 know, you have to understand you're
2:11 going to take these positions. Well, why
2:13 are we taking those positions? Well,
2:15 look at the donors. So, that's the first
2:17 thing. It's very dishonest. All these
2:20 people pretend as though they're some
2:21 sort of objective analyst and they're
2:24 not. Uh they're spouting the narrative.
2:26 They're repeating the nonsense because
2:28 that's what the money demands. It's just
2:31 depressing but that's the way it is.
2:32 Secondly,
2:34 I worked as a consultant for some time
2:37 after I did leave the army independently
2:39 for various things and one of the things
2:41 that I discovered pretty quickly inside
2:43 the defense industries there were large
2:44 numbers of people particularly in the
2:47 area of missile technology who were very
2:49 unhappy with the IP that they were
2:51 compelled to turn over to the Israelis
2:53 and they would complain bitterly how the
2:55 Israelis took that IP, modified it and
2:58 yes under the table sold it to the
3:00 Chinese or the Russians or somebody else
3:03 given enough money. There's a lot of bad
3:05 blood there, a lot of bitterness inside
3:07 the US armed forces. Obviously, anybody
3:10 that reaches senior levels is going to
3:13 be a permanent unquestioning friend of
3:16 Israel. But once you go down below the
3:19 highest levels, you have to deal with
3:20 the people on the ground that have to
3:22 interact with them. It's not a pleasant
3:24 experience. They don't like it and they
3:26 don't like what she discussed at all.
3:28 And that provision in the legislature is
3:31 tantamount to treason. We have no
3:33 obligation as Americans to turn anything
3:36 of any importance and any significance
3:38 over to anybody that has any military
3:40 potential. Period. Now, we have been
3:43 very careful in the past. I mean, hell,
3:46 during World War II, we were very
3:47 careful with the British. Unfortunately,
3:49 FDR was less so with the Soviets. Uh,
3:52 but after the war, we cleaned that mess
3:54 up. Truman changed things. Eisenhower
3:57 changed things. Kennedy kept it going.
3:59 We did not share things and we were very
4:02 well aware of what the Israelis wanted
4:03 to do. They always wanted a nuclear
4:05 weapon. Kennedy obstructed it.
4:08 Eisenhower was appalled by the idea. Uh
4:12 unfortunately LBJ let it happen and
4:15 we've been living with it ever since.
4:17 >> Uh the reason for Israel that got
4:21 everyone on board just like me is very
4:24 simple. One of the reasons for the
4:26 Holocaust was that the Jews in Europe
4:28 did not have their own country.
4:31 And I believed that. A lot of people
4:33 believed it. Now, that's not the only
4:35 reason for the Holocaust, but that's a
4:37 critical point. And so, Americans like
4:40 me and I suspect like you and others
4:42 supported the state of Israel for that
4:45 reason. But what we're dealing with now
4:48 is not uh a friendly predisposition to
4:51 Israel, not a willingness to do business
4:55 on an equitable and mutually beneficial
4:57 basis. We're talking about being
5:00 becoming a vassel of the greater state
5:02 of Israel. And that's just effectively
5:04 what Donald Trump has turned us into.
5:06 Our armed forces are just
5:07 instrumentalities at the disposal of the
5:09 Israeli leadership and international
5:11 Jewish finance. This must stop. The vote
5:16 on Tuesday was a clear and unambiguous
5:18 vote against that. Woe be to the people
5:21 in Washington to ignore it. If they do,
5:24 it'll come back to haunt them. And I
5:26 suspect they'll ignore more of it than
5:28 we appreciate. At least at first.
5:31 >> Yeah, at least at first. We'll have to
5:33 see. Um I I want to shift over here in
5:35 just a second to uh some stuff happening
5:37 in the the Russian Ukraine war and get
5:39 your view on that. But before we do, I
5:41 want one last topic here. Uh nothing
5:43 really surprising here, but I don't
5:45 know, maybe it will be surprising by
5:46 some because this is uh the uh Israeli
5:49 UN ambassador Danny Dannon um making
5:53 this very interesting claim here that it
5:55 turns out that I guess what we've heard
5:56 all along that Benjamin Netanyahu
5:59 drugged President Trump into the war,
6:01 that they're using us as an extension of
6:02 the IDF. Apparently, none of that is
6:04 true. According to Danny Dan, as a
6:06 matter of fact, we're the ones that
6:08 started the war. I think it's
6:10 unfortunate and we saw it coming from
6:11 different directions that made the
6:14 linkage between the the rising prices
6:16 mainly the oil prices to the situation
6:18 here in Israel. So I I think it's
6:20 unfortunate. We know that the decision
6:22 to attack Iran or the decision of the
6:24 United States. It wasn't our decision.
6:25 We supported the effort of the US. We
6:27 think it was the right decision and I
6:29 think we should hear the datas today in
6:31 Iran what they are saying about the
6:33 United States. So it's very easy always
6:35 to blame Israel for everything but that
6:37 is not the case.
6:38 >> Yeah. It was no one less than Marco
6:41 Rubio is the one that said it was
6:42 actually Israel that was attacking. We
6:44 just had to get drugged along into it.
6:46 What do you say?
6:49 Well, years ago, Leon Trosky, who
6:52 incidentally is someone that is revered
6:53 in in many sections of the Jewish
6:55 communities in New York City and
6:57 elsewhere, Leon Trosky, of course, the
6:59 Bolevik, the one of the mass murderers
7:02 that founded the Soviet Union, was
7:05 approached by a subordinate, this is
7:07 about 1921-22.
7:10 And the subordinate came up to him and
7:11 said, "Commasur,
7:13 comrade, what we're saying in this this
7:16 leaflet, it's not true." He said, 'We
7:19 not telling the truth.' And Trosky
7:21 smiled at him and he said, 'Well, you
7:24 know, comrade, the paper will put up
7:27 with anything you put on it.
7:30 [snorts] I think you need to keep that
7:31 little anecdote in mind when you listen
7:33 to the Israelis. It's as simple as that.
7:36 And a lot of other people. And Americans
7:38 need to be smart and and recognize just
7:41 how frequently and often they're lied to
7:43 by a whole range of people, not just the
7:45 Israelis. But right now, clearly
7:47 everything that man said at the UN is
7:49 nonsense.
7:51 >> Yeah. And it uh and as you already
7:53 mentioned several times even in this
7:55 show and nearly everybody I put up here
7:57 somehow or way or the other benefits
7:59 financially from that relationship. So
8:03 uh keep that in mind too. We'll see
8:05 though because if the American public
8:06 has turned uh sharply against it and
8:08 it's not just because of this war here.
8:10 It's also because of the stuff that's
8:11 going on in been gone into Gaza since
8:13 2023 in Lebanon in the West Bank with
8:16 these pograms that are going on now that
8:18 people see all the time. It's a lot of
8:20 stuff building up. I don't I don't think
8:21 that people are going to go back to it.
8:23 So if these the Democrats come in and
8:25 try and soft pedal this and just try to
8:27 change it to a certain other direction.
8:29 I'm not sure that's going to work, but I
8:30 don't know.
8:31 >> Remember, I don't know if you can find
8:33 the clip, but there was a clip. This is
8:34 before things really got off the ground
8:36 in the war. This is before 28 February
8:39 as I recollect. I think it was Levvin uh
8:41 wasn't on his program necessarily, but
8:43 he was giving a speech and in the speech
8:46 he said, you know, we don't have to put
8:48 up with these people that disagree with
8:50 us. We don't have to listen to them. We
8:53 have enough money. We control enough
8:55 power in this country. We can shut them
8:57 down. And anybody who speaks out against
9:00 us is nothing more than another Nazi
9:03 fascist trying to destroy us. We have
9:07 every right to do that. I think you
9:09 ought to dig that one up. Uh he said
9:11 those kinds of things in the White House
9:13 in other forums. This is what you're
9:16 dealing with. And by the way, Levvin was
9:18 telling the truth. They have a lot of
9:21 money and a lot of money can be used to
9:23 destroy people that don't want to
9:26 support their position,
9:29 you know. And the sad part is that there
9:31 are lots of people like me out there who
9:34 would under normal circumstances have
9:36 unquestioningly
9:38 voiced support for Israel's security,
9:42 not for greater Israel, not for mass
9:45 murder, not for mass extermination of
9:48 your enemies or you designate. I mean,
9:50 that's not it.
9:52 >> Uh but that's not enough. uh this is a
9:54 group of people that demand
9:56 unconditional obedience and woe be to
9:59 him who doesn't go along with it and I
10:02 think uh that's what Donald Trump is
10:04 dealing with and you know the irony is
10:07 in the good sort of way we may be
10:09 entering into a new phase where woe be
10:11 to him that does do those kinds of
10:14 things because uh the voting public may
10:16 finally uh use their power and unseat
10:18 them. We hope it continues to work on
10:20 that way. Uh I want to shift gears here
10:22 into Europe. Uh because uh coming up
10:25 next week, I believe on the 10th uh so
10:27 five days from now, there's supposed to
10:29 be three-way talks for the first time in
10:31 a long time anyway with the United
10:33 States, Russia, and Ukraine. I believe
10:36 it's in Abu Dhabi is where they're going
10:37 to be meeting. And uh the hope is that
10:40 at this technical level they can start
10:42 working on some issues that at least get
10:43 people in the same room together and
10:45 seeing is there any foundation from
10:47 which we can have an agreement that
10:49 everybody can live with. No one will
10:51 like it but maybe that we can find
10:53 something they can live with. Uh what do
10:55 you think? Is there is there any hope at
10:57 all? Is this the beginning of something
10:58 good or is it just an exercise in
11:00 futility?
11:02 until someone can show me some evidence
11:05 for why the Russians or the Chinese or
11:08 the Iranians or anybody else out there
11:11 should take anything that we say
11:12 seriously. Uh that they have suddenly
11:15 decided that we are honorable and we are
11:18 credible. Uh I'd say it's meaningless. I
11:21 wouldn't pay too much attention to it. I
11:23 think the Russians in particular will
11:25 always be uh polite, but how many times
11:28 do you have to be burned? I mean, go all
11:30 the way back to the Minska Accords and
11:31 that happened while Trump was in his
11:35 first term. And you now know
11:38 our friend Angela Mle and others and
11:40 Mcronone have all admitted, well, that
11:42 was just nonsense. That was essentially
11:44 a facade designed to buy Ukrainians more
11:47 time to build up their military power to
11:49 attack Russia.
11:51 Okay. Well, then why would the Russians
11:53 pay any attention to this or the
11:56 Iranians or anybody else?
11:59 And so what what do you think is the is
12:01 the play of the Russians? Why why would
12:03 they be willing to do this and to to be
12:05 a participant in this if there's no fut
12:08 there's no utility in it?
12:09 >> The Russians see value in keeping open
12:12 the the lines of communication
12:15 and they want to be in a position where
12:17 they are never accused of having refused
12:19 to talk. They're open to talk. They'll
12:23 listen. Now what comes out of it? They
12:25 expect nothing because that's been their
12:28 experience thus far. But they will
12:30 always show up. They'll be polite. They
12:32 will listen. And if we're willing to
12:35 listen, which is rarely the case,
12:37 they'll tell you what they can and
12:38 cannot do. But we normally don't pay
12:42 much attention to that. We have this
12:43 view that if we show up, they should be
12:45 grateful and sign up for whatever we
12:47 want. Doesn't work that way.
12:50 >> And and let's take a look and see how it
12:52 does work. What is actually working on
12:53 the ground? because it it appears that
12:55 Russia has uh moved down along a path
12:58 and and we've heard uh John Mirshimer,
13:01 who by the way will be on the show later
13:02 this afternoon. Um he says he he doesn't
13:05 think there's any prospect for
13:07 diplomatic outcome at all. He said that
13:10 he's just convinced this will eventually
13:12 definitely work its way out on the
13:13 battlefield. He said that's just going
13:14 to be the way it's going to play out.
13:16 But I I wonder your view from a military
13:18 perspective. Does Russia have the
13:21 capacity to win on the battlefield? And
13:23 how might that look going forward?
13:26 >> Well, yes. I mean, there's no question
13:28 about that. And you can look at the
13:30 enormous amount of firepower that has
13:32 been assembled and thrown at the
13:33 Ukrainians over the last several weeks.
13:35 Ukraine is is basically in ruins and the
13:39 population there is miserable and
13:41 furious and angry with the government in
13:44 Kief. Our friend Zilinski and his f and
13:47 his buddies all survive because they
13:49 have MI6 and CIA surrounding them and
13:52 supporting them. They have thousands of
13:54 mercenaries have been brought in the
13:55 country to try and help compensate for
13:57 the problems with manpower. But this is
14:00 a dying regime. There's no question
14:01 about it. The issue for the Russians is
14:04 the one that we discussed a few weeks
14:06 ago.
14:08 When this ends, when this war is over,
14:10 certain things will have to be
14:11 acknowledged. Number one, Odessa will
14:13 belong to Moscow. There's no question
14:16 about that. They're not going to allow
14:18 the port of Odessa to go back into
14:20 Ukrainian hands and become a permanent
14:23 uh sore in the side of Russia, bringing
14:27 in drugs, arms,
14:29 illegal trafficking and women and
14:31 children, God knows what else, all to
14:33 fuel this state that is permanently
14:35 hostile to Russia. So they're going to
14:37 cross the uh Neper at some point and
14:40 they'll have to and take Odessa from the
14:42 land. Odessa is cut off now. That's not
14:45 going to change. And then I think
14:47 they'll extend that boundary all the way
14:48 to Muldava and Romania. And why wouldn't
14:51 they? I mean this is how you reduce the
14:54 rump state to a rump state. Now what do
14:57 you do with Kief? Well, as long as MI6
14:59 and CIA receive the funds and have the
15:03 funds to sustain the operation,
15:05 I think they'll tolerate it and then at
15:07 some point they'll make the decision to
15:09 cross up near Kief and take that place.
15:12 Uh I, you know, I I don't see any
15:15 alternatives to this because you're not
15:17 going to end this war any other way. And
15:20 I think they know that the attitude and
15:22 the mindset in Western Ukraine, which is
15:24 hostile to them, has changed quite a
15:26 bit. It's not a question of no longer
15:28 hating Russians as much as it is a
15:30 recognition that if they don't end this
15:32 war, they're all going to starve or
15:34 freeze to death, if not be killed. So, I
15:37 think it's come to that point inside
15:39 Ukraine. There is enormous pressure. I'm
15:42 sure I think you had brother Kaprnik,
15:46 did you not on?
15:47 >> Yeah. Yeah. Stanislavik. Yeah.
15:48 >> Yeah. And Stanislav told you what's
15:51 happening on the ground and he's right.
15:53 Uh the Russians have reached a point now
15:55 they have the forces they have the
15:57 manpower they can do what they need to
15:59 do. No one is talking about what is up
16:01 in Ber Russia where there's plenty of
16:03 force and power up there as well. And in
16:06 the meantime Europe is approaching
16:08 entropy. Does anybody really think the
16:10 French or the British are going to send
16:12 anybody to fight in Western Ukraine?
16:13 Forget it. It's a it's a joke. These
16:16 these governments are on their last
16:17 legs. Mats, everybody wants to get rid
16:20 of Mats. We're working tirelessly. that
16:23 is our intelligence agencies with the
16:25 current German government to keep the
16:27 alternative for Germany out of power. We
16:30 are working everywhere inside of Europe
16:32 to help suppress nationalists in favor
16:35 of the globalists who are in power. And
16:38 it's very funny that that's never
16:40 mentioned publicly. Instead, you have
16:42 these globalists in Berlin, Paris, and
16:45 Leonard say, "Well, those evil Russians,
16:47 they're on the ground and they're
16:48 influencing things." Listen, the
16:51 Russians do many things well, but as far
16:53 as influencing things on the ground in
16:55 Poland and Germany, forget it. They're
16:57 I'm sorry. They're just not very
16:59 confident at that. So, [clears throat]
17:02 you know, the answer to your question
17:03 is, yeah, they can do it all. There's no
17:05 question about it. In fact, the the
17:07 Russian electorate wants to do it. They
17:10 want this to end. And the pressure on
17:12 President Putin, I think, is just
17:14 enormous. At some point, he's going to
17:16 relent, I think, and and do it. But he
17:19 has wisely, at least to this point,
17:22 exercised restraint. It's paid off for
17:24 him. Things have moved in Russia's
17:26 direction. But how many times you have
17:28 to put up with another storm shadow
17:31 missile or some UAV from Western Europe
17:34 that is launched by the Ukrainians into
17:37 Russia that kills Russians. It's not
17:39 just damaging a refiner here or there.
17:41 Those things can be repaired. Large
17:44 refineries are are very robust entities,
17:47 by the way. So, you're not going to put
17:49 it out of business that easily. But it's
17:51 an irritant. It's a strategic irritant.
17:54 It's embarrassing and it's frustrating
17:55 and it angers the hell out of the
17:57 population and with good reason. I mean,
17:59 if they started hitting us anywhere
18:03 between Houston and Jersey City, we'd be
18:06 damn upset as well. But, uh, you know,
18:09 thus far, he's he's held back. I don't
18:12 know how much longer he can do that.
18:14 See, the truth is right now we are
18:16 staring strategic defeat in the eye in
18:20 the Persian Gulf. Let there be no
18:23 mistake about it. We have been
18:24 militarily defeated. We are being forced
18:27 into ignominious retreat from the
18:30 region.
18:32 Once it became clear to the Iranians
18:34 that Iran would survive, they turned
18:37 their attention to the number two
18:38 objective after survival, which was and
18:41 still is the expulsion of hostile
18:45 American forces from the region.
18:48 Now, that doesn't sit terribly well with
18:50 some of our friends in the uh statelets
18:53 of the Persian Gulf, but we've
18:56 demonstrated we can't protect them, and
18:58 they've reminded us of that. and they're
19:01 going to face a situation very shortly
19:03 where there's one one of two things has
19:04 to happen. Either throw the Americans
19:08 out
19:09 or we'll finish the job and there won't
19:12 be much of you left. And I think that's
19:15 where the Iranians are at this point. We
19:18 have to also heed the wishes of the
19:20 people that live in the region. And I
19:22 think ultimately people in the region
19:24 are going to say, you know, we've had a
19:27 good relationship, but it's no good
19:28 anymore. you really can't protect us and
19:31 you're going to have to leave.
19:33 And I think those are the preconditions
19:36 for some sort of peace in the region.
19:40 Now, the there's a there's a problem
19:42 here and that problem is Israel.
19:46 >> Israel.
19:48 [snorts] Um,
19:51 talking about the Gulf, um, CNN put out
19:54 an article as we went live. According to
19:57 a regional official, Gulf state leaders
20:00 are concerned about shortages of air
20:01 defense munitions and have acknowledged
20:03 these shortages could hinder their
20:05 ability to intercept Iranian missiles
20:07 and UAVs uh, drones. Iran also
20:10 reportedly told Gulf states that energy
20:12 infrastructure or water desalination
20:14 sites across the region would be struck
20:17 if America conducts new strikes against
20:18 Iran. That report was from yesterday,
20:20 the second one. So, two two pieces of
20:23 information here. Number one is
20:24 unsurprising that the Gulf are warning
20:26 that they don't have enough
20:26 interceptors. They're not ready for a
20:28 new barrage by Iran. And number two, the
20:31 Iranians have there I've talked a lot
20:33 about this in the last few days. their
20:35 rules of engagement has changed
20:36 drastically to put Trump in a very
20:38 difficult position. One, I think they
20:40 struck the ship in Egypt. Some people
20:41 say it was either a false flag or
20:43 another country or unknown, but I think
20:45 they struck the ship in Egypt as a
20:46 warning to the Americans. They
20:48 preemptively struck Jordan and Kuwait to
20:50 change, as I said, the rules of
20:52 engagement. The Iranians are like, "Hey,
20:54 if you start attacking us or if you do
20:55 anything, we're going to decide when it
20:58 stops. So, you can't start and stop
20:59 whenever you want." And we have a bigger
21:01 target base now. And now with this new
21:05 threat that was reported yesterday, but
21:07 that came in a few days ago, the
21:08 Iranians are like any strike on our
21:10 territory, any will result in strikes on
21:13 the energy infrastructure and civilian
21:15 infrastructure like desalination plants
21:17 as well as US bases in the Gulf. So this
21:19 is around making it clear for Trump that
21:21 either you go all in as in gloves off
21:25 full-blown war or you don't strike us
21:27 ever again. Number one. And then with
21:29 the earlier report about their demands
21:30 on the negotiations,
21:32 they're asking for crazy fees, um, and
21:36 they're passing a pretty crazy law. So,
21:37 I don't know whether the Iranians are
21:39 putting Trump in a position where he
21:40 literally has no choice but to do what
21:43 we've discussed for months now and just
21:45 walk away, say, "Look, I messed up."
21:47 He'll obviously say something different,
21:49 but I'm I messed up. I'm going to let
21:52 the rest of the world clear it. you
21:54 know, the consequences of my will
21:56 be felt for many, many years to come, if
21:58 not decades, but I can't do anything
22:00 about it. And I don't know whether this
22:01 is what the Iranis are forcing Trump
22:03 into. Maybe that leads to my next
22:04 question is um with all the these
22:06 updates that happened and all the other
22:08 news in the last few days, what's more
22:09 likely now in your opinion, Trump a
22:12 deal, Trump walking away or um uh back
22:17 to war?
22:20 Well, I think you're asking a question
22:22 that everybody wants an answer to.
22:24 >> Exactly. [laughter]
22:25 >> People saying, "Well, he's not going to
22:28 go back in." And
22:28 >> let me open Let me open Poly Market,
22:30 Colonel. Let me open Poly Market before
22:31 you answer. All right. Go ahead.
22:34 >> Some people are saying, "No, he's not
22:36 going to attack." Uh, I heard that the
22:39 last time. I've heard that so many
22:41 times. Oh, no, he won't attack. He
22:43 understands the ramifications. He does
22:46 understand the ramifications.
22:48 and he made that very clear when he was
22:50 in Paris and he signed the MOU. He said,
22:52 "I don't want to be Herbert Hoover and
22:55 I'm not going to be responsible for the
22:58 world global depression that will result
23:01 if I don't open the street." So, he does
23:04 understand that. But having said that,
23:07 Tucker Carlson also has related that
23:10 before the war started some some time
23:12 ago. You know, you've got to go back to
23:14 2023.
23:16 Tucker brought me on his program. I
23:19 think it was in August of 2023
23:21 up in his uh studio in New England. And
23:25 he asked me point blank opening
23:28 question, uh, are we on the path to war
23:31 with Iran? And I unhesitatingly said
23:34 yes.
23:36 Okay. Now, some people thought I was a
23:39 lunatic and uh he was a little surprised
23:43 that I answered so straightforwardly,
23:45 but I said we were. He then subsequently
23:48 reported years later, just before all of
23:50 this uh business began in February, that
23:53 he had actually gone to the Oval Office
23:55 and talked to President Trump
23:58 and that in this discussion they he he
24:00 was very straightforward about.
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