0:01 Igor Vladimirovich, one way or another,
0:03 we keep coming back to our interview,
0:05 yes, which was released and published
0:10 And in it, you predicted the end of
0:12 combat operations at the end of 2026, or
0:14 perhaps the beginning of 2027.
0:17 And now Alexander Grigoryevich
0:19 Lukashenko, albeit with less
0:20 argumentation—he decided not to bother
0:22 with arguments—has made a statement that
0:24 the war will be over in a couple of
0:27 He said, "This is my honest opinion."
0:30 He says everyone is tired, there are no
0:31 resources left. In short, everyone is
0:33 tired of this war, so it will end soon;
0:34 that is my honest opinion.
0:37 Well, this person's private opinion, I
0:39 think, is based on data, personal
0:41 communication, and an understanding of
0:45 Against this backdrop, there are
0:47 upcoming technical meetings, a
0:49 trilateral meeting between the Americans
0:51 , Ukrainians, and Russians, which are
0:53 supposed to take place on the 10th or
0:59 Arakhamia’s flight to Washington, yes.
1:03 Along the way, as you already mentioned
1:05 , an attempt to initiate a criminal case
1:07 against this man who influences and
1:09 controls the parliament.
1:11 They stuffed him into a spacesuit that
1:13 looked like a suit, yes. It was obvious
1:15 that, judging by everything, the man
1:17 bought it somewhere along the way; he
1:19 didn't have time to hem the trousers or
1:20 get proper shoes. But nonetheless, they
1:23 combed him, washed him, shaved him a bit
1:25 , and stood him next to Melania.
1:28 Is all of this connected to accelerating
1:30 these processes and putting pressure on
1:34 Because he is like a living organism—
1:36 Zelensky, his regime, and those who
1:39 influence him—even if it is
1:40 single-celled, it still clings to its
1:43 existence and tries in every way to
1:45 stall the processes that have been
1:48 launched and cannot be undone.
1:51 Yes, they can perhaps be slowed down
1:52 somehow, and that is all he is trying to
1:54 do. All these steps are related to, and
1:56 I cannot even find the right word—it is
1:59 not pressure, it is simply forcing
2:01 Zelensky and the British toward peace.
2:04 >> Sash, we have discussed this many times
2:08 We have often heard—even addressed to us
2:11 —such claims that, look, 90 billion was
2:14 allocated, they say the war will last
2:17 until 2030, Zelensky said he is
2:19 preparing until 2030, and Europeans are
2:21 talking about nuclear war.
2:25 And for some reason, we had to defend
2:27 our position. But I said every time how
2:30 events would unfold.
2:32 That as soon as Zelensky begins to get
2:34 in the way, he will be removed like a
2:36 stone lying in the middle of the road,
2:38 yes? And you and I have discussed
2:40 several options. And one of them was
2:43 exactly Carthage Two, or whatever it may
2:46 be. Well, in general, the NABU tapes,
2:50 And note that they fired at him and
2:53 simultaneously made a decision regarding
2:56 Arakhamia, and immediately Arakhamia was
2:59 summoned to a meeting with Melania Trump
3:03 Look, if Oleshky was an attempt to help
3:06 Trump show progress in a peace
3:08 settlement in Ukraine, and that was
3:11 important before the election, then
3:13 after the results were announced, this
3:16 meeting could be considered ritualistic
3:19 , but in fact, look, this is the first
3:21 time Arakhamia is in the United States
3:24 without an entourage.
3:27 Well, we won't count Lubinets, right?
3:29 Meaning he is without Yermak, he is
3:31 without Zelensky, there are no handlers
3:36 But why is Yermak important?
3:39 I said that when Zelensky becomes an
3:41 obstacle and someone is needed to sign a
3:43 treaty, ideally, of course, in the
3:45 worldview and likely for the Russian
3:48 Federation, the one who provoked the war
3:50 should also sign the capitulation—that
3:55 But if time runs short, as we discussed
3:58 , the speaker of parliament will sign
4:00 the peace settlement.
4:03 But who could that be? Kalyvan? Not
4:07 And in that attack by the NABU, one
4:09 might imply that they are trying to take
4:11 control of the parliament. And it
4:13 matters who is chosen as the new speaker
4:16 . If it’s Zheleznyak, the Sorosites have
4:21 If it’s David Arakhamia, then it is not
4:24 Melania Trump speaking with him right
4:29 They are simply setting tasks for him,
4:32 explaining his fate, what will happen if
4:35 he doesn't agree, and showing the
4:37 documents the NABU has.
4:40 So, they are blackmailing him.
4:43 From the beginning, when we said that
4:46 the anti-corruption vertical is a
4:48 vertical of external governance, that
4:51 its goal is not fighting corruption, but
4:53 rather documenting the state's top
4:56 officials for the purpose of further
4:58 blackmail and forcing them to take
5:00 actions required by the US.
5:05 So right now, Arakhamia is simply being
5:07 acquainted with materials and the
5:09 prospects of his future existence in a
5:12 place not so far away if he doesn't take
5:14 the following actions.
5:19 If he is not chosen as head of
5:21 parliament and if he doesn't sign the
5:24 following conditions agreed upon by the
5:26 US and Russia, with notice to China.
5:30 Because China is not interfering in this
5:33 conflict but is still a party, yes, one
5:36 that doesn't make decisions or interfere
5:39 , but one that is kept in mind.
5:43 And because of whom, in principle,
5:45 negotiations are happening now.
5:47 Therefore, I think Arakhamia is having a
5:49 very difficult day, which is why he is
5:52 literally buttoned up to the top.
5:55 And tell David that you shouldn't button
5:57 the bottom button of your jacket.
6:00 And his trousers should, of course, be
6:02 hemmed, but he is terrified because I
6:04 think they have already instilled the
6:06 relevant ideas in him, but for Ukraine,
6:10 This means the end of the conflict, and
6:13 if Arakhamia is the speaker, it's better
6:16 than someone like Yesko or Zheleznyak.
6:20 Because at the same time it is clear:
6:22 the States are pressing to fully strip
6:25 and destroy Zelensky's power and
6:32 and his cronies, yes—Prytula, uh,
6:35 Sternenko, and this whole class of
6:37 grant-eaters—are trying to pull power to
6:39 themselves, appoint their own people
6:42 everywhere, stuff them into the SBU, and
6:44 try to push through laws that will allow
6:46 them to gain influence over the
6:48 Prosecutor General's Office.
6:52 That is, while the high, respected
6:54 parties are negotiating, they are
6:55 actually taking power under their
6:56 control in our country.
7:00 And I constantly emphasize this, because
7:03 I think those at the top don't see what
7:05 is happening below in Ukraine.
7:10 And what is happening is the deprivation
7:13 of its agency by this, uh, class of
7:16 freeloaders, yes, foreign agents who
7:19 grew up on Soros's money, USAID under
7:22 the patronage of Fiala, who is now
7:25 absorbing Ukrainian assets, cementing,
7:28 hmm, uh, I would call it Sorosite power
7:33 Friends, well, there is no other, this
7:36 That is, in essence, there is a
7:39 construct that will later prevent the
7:41 implementation of agreements between the
7:44 US and Russia and quite possibly plunge
7:46 the country into conflict again, when
7:49 certain elites without a consensus need
7:51 , yes, to arrange another scuffle in the
7:58 Once again, if the Sorosites gain
8:00 control over the entire law enforcement
8:03 system, no elected or, uh, appointed
8:06 government, or transitional governments
8:08 will be able to exist, because an entire
8:11 mechanism has already been worked out
8:14 that has shown its effectiveness.
8:19 Wiretapping, no one even bothers, yes,
8:21 to conduct an examination, dismissal,
8:24 detention, crazy bail, non-acceptance of
8:27 money or acceptance, well, it doesn't
8:29 matter, they will remove anyone from the
8:34 Imagine, well, whoever comes to power,
8:36 yes, they will need to, they will need
8:39 to bring a team of thousands of people.
8:43 Thousands of people. Governors, the
8:45 Cabinet of Ministers, security agencies
8:47 , regional verticals, down to the last,
8:49 these are thousands of people.
8:51 And if such a construct exists, and its
8:56 , uh, main strategic task is to
9:00 blackmail everyone, document, invent,
9:06 The money hasn't returned, they haven't
9:08 returned it, none of those whom, uh,
9:11 NABU arrested, yes, have returned money
9:15 None of them are actually in prison.
9:17 They are all actually walking free. So
9:19 this, once again, is an element of
9:22 blackmail. This element of blackmail
9:25 will either force the system to work for
9:28 them through blackmail, or will sabotage
9:31 any decisions that are disadvantageous
9:34 to the, uh, vertical that this
9:37 anti-corruption vertical now represents
9:41 I am referring to that part of the
9:43 American elites, perhaps European elites
9:45 , because there, too, Soros—they are the
9:47 same ones who come to power under the
9:49 influence of, yes, this funding and at
9:51 the expense of Soros and USAID funding,
9:53 and we are all observing this.
9:56 We see how it works. Therefore, I will
9:59 say it again, yes, it is very important
10:01 that the scenario actually takes place.
10:03 Look, I am not justifying David
10:05 Arakhamia. Believe me, there are a
10:07 million questions for him. He is flesh
10:09 and blood of Zelensky.
10:11 He is the man who heads the "Monaco
10:13 Battalion," which parasitizes on several
10:16 sectors, on the tax office, on a bunch
10:18 of topics that were once overseen by the
10:21 "People's Front," and then he fronted
10:25 Yes, he is a very wealthy man, but he is
10:28 a person who is under the systemic
10:31 influence of the United States, and not
10:34 this group of outlaws, yes, who are now
10:36 dressing up as reformers, as volunteers
10:39 , and everything else.
10:42 They are not serving the motherland,
10:44 they are simply feeding off it and
10:47 Robbing it endlessly.
10:49 Therefore, Sasha, all this that we were
10:52 discussing, it is now in the final stage
10:54 of implementation and precisely
10:56 according to the scenario we discussed
11:01 Through a parliamentary coup, not even a
11:04 coup, through the reformatting of the
11:06 parliament, through the removal of
11:09 Zelensky from real power, through an
11:11 acting official who will actually be
11:13 legitimate, because the legitimacy of
11:16 the Verkhovna Rada is not in doubt for
11:18 either the Russian Federation or the USA
11:23 And if he really controls the parliament
11:26 —and now the NABU, SAP, and the
11:28 Anti-Corruption Court will help him—
11:30 because if there is money...oh, rather,
11:32 if there is data, and data from wiretaps
11:35 or video surveillance and video
11:37 recording of Arakhamia handing out
11:39 salaries (since he was handing out these
11:41 salaries to members of parliament)—then
11:44 there is kompromat on the entire
11:48 And that means Arakhamia will sign, and
11:51 the parliament will ratify, including
11:53 the agreements that will be reached
11:56 within the framework of the global
11:58 security architecture.
12:02 Peace will be woven into this huge thing
12:05 to blur the real defeat that both the
12:08 Zelensky regime and the supporting part
12:11 of the American elites have suffered.
12:16 After all, in reality, they were the
12:18 initial initiators, and they wanted this
12:21 war, because it was Biden who rejected
12:23 Putin, yes, in his proposals that were
12:26 submitted in Geneva six months before
12:28 the start of the large-scale conflict.
12:32 That is, the States got up from the
12:34 table in time and are pretending that it
12:36 was Europe that soiled its pants, and
12:38 that they, in general, have nothing to
12:41 But once again, up to a certain stage,
12:44 their goals all coincided, and Europe,
12:47 as dependent allies, they are dependent
12:50 on the United States, joined in.
12:54 And the final touch, Sash, will be a
12:57 complete revision of, uh, and possibly
13:00 even the existence of NATO, in its
13:07 That is why these hysterics we are
13:09 witnessing, Europe's talk about the need
13:12 to prepare for war, they—I don't think
13:15 they are preparing for war, but they are
13:18 trying to compensate for the absence of
13:20 the American presence, which will
13:23 inevitably be formalized, yes, in the
13:25 near future within the framework of this
13:33 >> Yan Vladimirovich, I want to ask a
13:35 clarifying question so that people have
13:37 a complete understanding.
13:39 When you talk about Arakhamia's
13:41 parliament, yes, well, modeling this
13:44 situation, you are saying that they will
13:46 , well, meaning the parliament will sign
13:49 , ratify, and then remove themselves.
13:52 Do I understand you correctly? Meaning
13:54 they will not become, right, part of the
13:56 new format of governing the country?
13:59 >> Sash, even within our forum, when we
14:01 discuss all the initiatives and write a
14:04 roadmap, I can tell you, dear viewers,
14:06 how to do this without violating the
14:10 Well, I will probably say to those high
14:13 contracting parties: yes, if you take
14:16 control of the Ukrainian parliament,
14:19 there will be a clear speaker who will
14:25 the duties of the president in view of
14:28 his absence or lack of legitimacy—well,
14:31 it doesn't matter—then we need a
14:33 transition period to cleanse ourselves
14:36 of the legacy of the military
14:38 dictatorship, restore the rule of law,
14:41 restore the financial system, conduct
14:43 monitoring, audits, and so on, reach
14:46 some reasonable program for further
14:50 and prepare for the transition to
14:53 democratic procedures, that is, to
14:58 This also requires returning freedom of
15:00 speech, abolishing party persecution,
15:02 restoring the operation of TV channels,
15:04 a lot of things need to be done.
15:06 Who should do this, Sash?
15:09 The Cabinet of Ministers.
15:11 Look, in order to be appointed to the
15:13 Cabinet of Ministers, people must not
15:15 have been in the country for the last
15:19 Well, if you remember, half our cabinet
15:21 consisted of Balts, Georgians, and
15:23 anyone else—foreign citizens in general
15:27 So, that transitional government we were
15:30 talking about can be appointed by the
15:32 Ukrainian parliament, and these will be
15:35 agreed-upon figures, for whom China, the
15:38 United States, and possibly Russia will
15:40 provide funding to Ukraine, and they
15:43 will clear up all that has piled up, and
15:46 all the excrement, yes, from which
15:48 Ukraine will need to be cleansed, like
15:50 Zelensky's Augean stables, you
15:52 understand, literally.
15:56 All this will need to be raked out, and
15:59 this can only be done by those people
16:01 who are trusted, yes, by those who are
16:03 ready to become guarantors of Ukraine's
16:05 security, who are ready to allocate
16:07 funding, yes, for its reconstruction and
16:13 And thus, yes, with the existing
16:15 parliament, it is possible to create
16:17 this transitional government, a real
16:19 cabinet of ministers, for which, yes,
16:21 guarantors will promise that Ukraine
16:24 will receive this, that, and the other
16:26 if these people are appointed.
16:30 So, this is how a transitional system
16:33 can be built to restore order—once again
16:35 , through the rule of law, freedom of
16:38 speech, and all basic freedoms—to return
16:41 rights and freedoms to the citizens, so
16:43 we can move toward democratic processes
16:46 and elections, and not what Zelensky
16:49 wanted to carry out.
16:52 But take note, I already said that it
16:54 won’t be possible to hold elections
16:57 without a digital platform, yes, without
16:59 —why were we holding the forum, why were
17:01 we creating an electronic voting system
17:06 Zelensky is already agreeing to this,
17:08 but I said once again: without the
17:11 voting of Ukrainian citizens who are
17:13 outside the country, these elections
17:16 will be, uh, harmful to Ukraine.
17:20 Because if those citizens who are abroad
17:22 are not returned to the electoral field
17:24 , if elections are not organized for
17:26 them, and if they are not allowed to
17:28 choose the government they consider
17:30 right, they will not return to the
17:34 And if 20 million people do not return
17:36 to the country, it will not be viable.
17:38 We are facing a demographic catastrophe
17:40 of enormous proportions; we will simply
17:43 degenerate as a nation and there won't
17:46 be enough labor force to rebuild the
17:50 And if Ukraine hasn't been written off,
17:53 if the surrounding neighbors understand
17:56 that life there needs to be normalized,
17:59 otherwise it’s a boiling cauldron of
18:02 unrealized ambitions and unfinished
18:04 business, yes, that will live on ideas
18:07 of revanchism, then it is only a matter
18:10 of time, yes, before its lid blows off.
18:15 Therefore, we must create conditions so
18:17 that people focus not on hatred, not on
18:20 a desire for revenge, but on creation,
18:22 on development, on building a new state
18:25 in the literal sense of the word, new
18:27 cities, yes, which is what Alexander
18:30 Vladimirovich, Sasha, talked about at
18:32 the forum last time and made proposals
18:38 It is high time to discuss the future,
18:41 the outlook, and to form a team.
18:45 We see you when you are active, when you
18:47 propose something, when your preparation
18:49 and intelligence are visible, yes.
18:52 Once again, we need a huge team of
18:54 people who are not narrow-minded, not
18:59 fixated, yes, on the problems that the
19:02 tragedy brought to our home, because
19:04 many have been just surviving for the
19:06 last 4.5 years, yes, they cannot lift
19:09 their heads and have no time for all
19:12 But those who are capable of thinking,
19:15 those who have interesting ideas, join
19:18 us. We need to save our fellow
19:20 countrymen, our citizens; we need to
19:22 save our country and we need to know how
19:24 to do it. And most importantly, this
19:27 must be coordinated with the world as
19:29 well. Right now, we are maximally
19:32 dependent on the decisions that will be
19:35 made for us and without us.
19:37 I used to mock the idea that decisions
19:41 about Ukraine were being made without
19:44 Ukraine; back then, it was a jab at both
19:48 Poroshenko and Zelensky, because Ukraine
19:52 could have been self-sufficient and not
19:56 had to go around with its hand out.
20:00 Certain steps needed to be taken to
20:02 become a self-reliant country.
20:06 But now, with that colossal national
20:08 debt and a completely destroyed industry
20:12 and energy sector, we are totally
20:14 dependent on aid, which we need at this
20:17 initial stage to quickly fix everything
20:20 , restore business processes and our
20:23 entire ecosystem, so that people can
20:26 return to the country.
20:30 A little more time, and people won't
20:32 come back; they will fully assimilate in
20:35 other countries, which would mean the
20:43 We must work, we must act quickly.
20:47 Once again, there is a system, without
20:50 long—I mean, I just described the
20:52 mechanics: a controlled majority,
20:54 removing Zelensky from power, and a
20:57 functional parliament with a specific
21:02 It needs to be developed now, proposed
21:04 to the world, shown who will provide the
21:06 money, and the figures who will join
21:08 this government must be agreed upon—
21:10 this is the only working scheme.
21:14 Otherwise, if an imitation of elections
21:16 begins and a military parliament gathers
21:19 , friends, that is a step toward civil
21:21 confrontation, because no one will give
21:24 money to a military parliament,
21:26 understanding that it is just a deferred
21:30 And money loves silence, peace, and
21:32 stability: it is not given to a country
21:35 that risks being plunged back into the
21:39 Therefore, the option I am proposing is
21:42 the most moderate one.
21:45 I understand that many won't like it,
21:47 those who have already...well, he,
21:49 Budanov, can't even figure out—who is he
21:51 , anyway? Is he the head of the
21:53 President's Office or is he a general?
21:56 He understands that the military has
21:57 authority, so he puts on a cap, then...
21:59 It’s like "Wedding in Malinovka": he
22:01 just doesn't know which headgear to wear
22:04 The Whites come—they rob, the Reds come
22:06 —it's that whole, entire story.
22:08 One moment he's a soldier, the next an
22:10 official, then he's speaking Russian,
22:12 then Ukrainian, then using profanity,
22:14 then he's an intellectual, then it's the
22:16 UOC, then the OCU...Guys, look, all of
22:18 this trying to sit on two chairs with
22:19 one backside has come to an end.
22:23 Once again, a multi-vector policy is not
22:31 a policy of low social responsibility.
22:33 It is taking into account the interests
22:35 of all neighbors. It is taking into
22:42 It is not overstep—you know, your
22:43 freedom ends where the freedom of others
22:48 So when Ukraine decided that it would
22:51 join NATO, it infringed upon the freedom
22:53 and security of a neighboring state and
22:55 should have understood—I spoke about
22:58 this—that no one would allow it.
23:01 This can have consequences that have
23:03 resulted in a major war. And politicians
23:05 must always take this into account.
23:08 But politicians can do this; clowns
23:10 cannot, pastry chefs cannot, and those
23:13 who are actually thinking about sweets,
23:15 leggings, pianos, and everything else
23:19 One must understand that politics is the
23:21 art of the possible.
23:22 Meaning this is possible, and this
23:24 cannot be, because it will lead to such
23:26 consequences, and these consequences
23:28 will be ruinous for our country.
23:31 Therefore, friends, let's make a plan
23:33 where we write everything in black and
23:36 white, indicate a roadmap, coordinate it
23:38 with the world, proceed,
23:44 roll up our sleeves, and start quietly