0:00 I just wanted to say that uh
0:03 today the importance is about AI
0:06 discussions about AI but uh uh there's
0:08 so much uh more important things like
0:10 peace peace in Ukraine and and the
0:13 discussions about uh Europe's and
0:15 Europe's role in uh in negotiations. I
0:17 think uh we as Europe have to grow some
0:22 bigger balls because we are bigger in
0:25 size. We're bigger in uh in I mean in
0:28 military might in all the economic uh
0:30 aspects. Look where is Russia? Russia is
0:32 uh not capable of even uh taking such a
0:36 such a in size smaller in in population
0:40 smaller uh power as Ukraine which is
0:42 showing a great great spirit and
0:44 fighting back fifth year and in
0:47 discussions Russia is raising uh the
0:50 points what what we have to accept.
0:52 Sorry, that's the aggressor which is
0:54 losing on the front line. Uh we should
0:56 be raising our expectations what has to
0:59 be done in terms of Ukraine's security.
1:01 So I think that's uh that's the position
1:03 we should be we should be stronger in in
1:05 pointing out that uh we are the
1:07 guarantee for the future security. It is
1:10 our geographical area what is uh in the
1:12 future with Ukraine and and Europe. So I
1:15 think that's that should be the position
1:17 in the discussions. Prime Minister, how
1:19 close are we to deciding who will state
1:21 that case for Europe?
1:23 >> Oh, well, [laughter] we we that's
1:26 another day today for for finalization,
1:28 but I think it has to be clear. It has
1:31 to be clear principle who gets to
1:32 mandate and and speaks and we have to
1:34 speak if there if there are ne serious
1:37 negotiations, we have to be at the
1:39 table. But let's be honest, there does
1:43 it look really serious. I think we're
1:45 being dragged into false false uh
1:48 situation. There is nobody willing to
1:50 have peace. Somebody just wants to use
1:51 the the winter for uh making more damage
1:54 to civilians and and Ukraine. So I think
1:58 that's not real peace talks.
1:59 >> Prime Minister on financing Ukraine. We
2:02 hear saying that he can
2:06 some countries won't participate in
2:11 loans. uh what what you do with those
2:14 countries and how how do you see if we
2:16 can solve that uh financially?
2:19 >> Well, look at us the eastern front line.
2:23 We're are three Baltic countries, Poland
2:25 and Finland. We're showing the example.
2:27 We hit the hardest in economy, but we do
2:29 0.25% actually 0.31%
2:33 constant support to Ukraine from our uh
2:36 uh from our GDP. Then we do the most
2:39 investment in the security and defense
2:42 6.4%. We're the example. It is not easy
2:46 politically. Our people are also willing
2:48 to have better life and and etc. But we
2:50 understand the importance of that. If
2:53 other countries would have followed
2:54 exactly the same point, we wouldn't have
2:57 an issue discussing regarding supporting
2:59 Ukraine. And I totally agree with
3:01 councelor Mertz. It is a matter of fact
3:04 that we all have to we are just talking
3:06 about money at the moment.
3:08 Money is an easy way to to to make
3:11 security and defense. Uh it's not about
3:13 lives. It is Ukrainians who who are
3:16 giving their lives to to keep the the
3:18 the security and defense. So I think
3:21 that's u he's totally right. We have to
3:23 be all in one uh one understanding. All
3:26 Europe has to be committed.
3:30 >> Well, they have to
3:32 the frozen assets the frozen assets
3:36 discussed just time to time again from
3:38 your perspective like what is the
3:39 solution to solve as Belgian's concern
3:43 >> well uh none of the countries should be
3:46 left alone with an issue which means we
3:49 all have to have solid solidarity in
3:51 this aspect I think that there's a there
3:53 is a money lying on the ground which is
3:57 Russia's money which we can definitely
3:59 use to support Ukraine because That's
4:02 exactly what Russia is doing. It's
4:03 stealing the the the companies. It's
4:06 just seizing the assets in in in Russia
4:08 without any concern. Well, that's the
4:11 money why every European has to take it
4:14 from its own pocket if there's a money
4:15 available. So, we should support
4:17 Belgium. We should support and and fully
4:20 fully all the countries together take
4:22 the risk. Thank you.