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Europe kept out of the Abu Dhabi talks, US bases in Lithuania and cyberattacks
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Pushes the agenda · agenda: US-Russia talks decide Ukraine's fate
Belief the Pravda network pushes: Russia and the United States should negotiate Ukraine's future without Europe, while Ukraine and the West block peace and threaten Russia.
Pro-Kremlin panelists welcome the exclusion of Europe from the US-Russia-Ukraine talks in Abu Dhabi, repeat Kremlin lines that Europe is a 'destructive factor', say Ukraine is 'on its last legs', and praise a US plan to freeze the front line with Russia keeping the territory.
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“He said that Europe has no business at these negotiations because it is a destructive factor in this process.”
He said that Europe has no business at these negotiations because it is a destructive factor in this process.
The panel echoes the Pravda framing that Russia and the US settle Ukraine's fate without Europe, repeats Kremlin claims that Europe is 'destructive', and says Ukraine is 'on its last legs' and 'strongly disagrees' with the American plan, so the talks are presented as a done deal and Ukraine and Europe as obstacles to peace.
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1:22 "On the Baltic Wave," let me remind you
1:23 , is a program where I, Aleksey Belyaev
1:25 , a Belarusian journalist, political
1:27 scientist, and historian, analyze and
1:29 dissect the history of the Baltic region
1:30 with guests who know firsthand what life
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1:42 taking place in this region today. And
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1:48 So, today's guests on the program "On
1:50 the Baltic Wave." Let me introduce them
1:52 to you. First, it is Roman Samul, a
1:54 well-known blogger who moved from Latvia
1:56 to Belarus and is also involved in a bit
1:59 of activism here. Roman.
2:01 >> Hello.
2:01 >> This is the well-known Lithuanian
2:03 politician, entrepreneur, and blogger
2:06 Antanas Kandrotas. Hello, Antanas.
2:08 >> Hello, friends.
2:10 >> Another blogger who moved from Latvia to
2:12 Belarus, who has as many as two names—
2:14 his real one and his alter ego.
2:17 That is Solomon Bernstein, so to speak,
2:20 in the secular world.
2:22 Well, for those in the know, his real
2:24 name is Konstantin Rudakov.
2:27 Hello, Konstantin.
2:29 >> And rounding out this interesting
2:32 company is an analyst and deputy
2:34 chairman of the public organization "
2:36 International Good Neighborliness Forum
2:39 ," the Belarusian Dmitry Zasukhin.
2:42 Hello, Dmitry.
2:45 >> Well, friends, so what is happening here
2:48 ?
2:49 There are so many events in the world, a
2:52 huge number, right?
2:54 We can't manage to talk about everything
2:56 , but negotiations are taking place in
2:58 Abu Dhabi while we are recording with
3:00 you here.
3:03 A lot of unpleasant things have happened
3:05 for Europe.
3:07 There were bomb threats on planes, like
3:10 27 to 35 times over the past week.
3:15 There was also a very unpleasant hacker
3:17 intrusion into the holy of holies of
3:20 stores; they disconnected the
3:22 refrigerators, everything shut down,
3:24 including an attempt to destroy blood
3:27 plasma in some French donor center.
3:31 Only the vigilant staff noticed the
3:32 temperature drop in time; otherwise,
3:34 there was a risk of spoiled plasma being
3:37 transfused to patients.
3:40 Also, a high-profile shooting incident
3:42 took place in Krakow, Poland.
3:46 A crazy fascist, essentially, one could
3:48 say based on what is known, shot his own
3:51 family, shot about six more people who
3:54 were killed, and I believe about fifteen
3:57 were injured.
3:59 I mean, such crazy things are actually
4:02 happening.
4:03 So, what do I want to say?
4:05 Well, regarding the negotiations in Abu
4:07 Dhabi, it’s still unknown what will
4:09 happen there, but let me remind you,
4:10 these are major tripartite negotiations
4:12 , right?
4:13 Russia, the United States of America,
4:16 Ukraine.
4:17 There. What’s what and how, we don’t
4:19 quite know yet, so let’s not touch on
4:22 that topic right now.
4:23 Perhaps we will discuss it later.
4:25 >> The negotiations, actually—well, not
4:27 even the negotiations themselves, but
4:30 the format and structure of the
4:32 negotiating groups—they say a lot, and I
4:35 think that’s very important.
4:38 Overall.
4:39 >> We don’t see any concrete results yet,
4:42 or what will come of it.
4:44 >> The result is there, it’s obvious, and
4:46 it’s profound and very important.
4:48 >> It’s the fact that they are taking place
4:50 at all.
4:50 >> The commission was denied accreditation
4:54 I mean, in fact.
4:56 >> You couldn’t resist taking a jab at
4:57 Europe, could you?
4:58 >> Why a jab? Look.
5:00 Now, many people in the world will start
5:03 to have questions.
5:05 Pardon me, please, you scream that you
5:08 are the center of the universe, the
5:10 essence of everything, and, in general,
5:12 the main arbiters of fate. But did you
5:15 hear the format? I mean, what are they
5:18 going to discuss in Abu Dhabi?
5:20 Ukraine is just one component of a much
5:22 broader format, and this has been
5:24 confirmed by both the Kremlin and
5:26 Washington.
5:28 They are going to discuss the
5:29 architecture of European security.
5:31 >> Without Europe.
5:33 >> And Europe, as Lavrov said, let those
5:35 people sit in the hotel.
5:37 >> Ushakov also spoke about this.
5:41 He said that Europe has no business at
5:42 these negotiations because it is a
5:44 destructive factor in this process.
5:48 And in fact, it currently looks like
5:50 this: the US has recognized the right of
5:53 Germany, Britain, and France to
5:56 participate in the consultations.
6:01 But Europe, realizing its wounded
6:03 position, sends someone from Ursula von
6:05 der Leyen’s team, because von der Leyen
6:07 herself didn’t sign up for such
6:09 humiliation.
6:10 I mean, well, in essence, they’ve been
6:12 left out in the cold.
6:14 They were told, "Guys, we’ll decide
6:16 everything for you now, and you just
6:17 stand outside the door; we’ll come out
6:19 and tell you how you’ll live from now on
6:21 ," right?
6:22 In general, Poland was outraged; I don't
6:23 remember if it was the Prime Minister or
6:25 the President who said it's outrageous
6:27 that Western European countries are
6:28 deciding how Eastern Europe will live.
6:30 But who’s asking them? Who’s asking him
6:32 ? Do you understand how deep a crisis we
6:34 are witnessing right now?
6:37 I mean, what are they going to decide
6:39 there in the end?
6:42 That is not—well, I believe that this,
6:44 in fact, isn't as important at this
6:46 moment as what happened right before our
6:48 eyes.
6:49 Big politics, realpolitik, it lives by
6:50 the laws of the jungle.
6:53 I mean, like hyenas, you know, if
6:55 someone is weak, there’s always an
6:57 option to check, well, maybe if you
6:59 aren't that strong, maybe something can
7:01 be taken from you?
7:03 It doesn’t necessarily mean military
7:04 intervention; I’m not claiming that, no
7:07 A trade agreement?
7:09 Let’s revise it in our favor.
7:11 Some long-term contracts? No. Payment
7:14 guarantees? Yes. Expensive loans? Yes.
7:18 And what are you going to do about it?
7:22 >> Well, so far, it has been clear that no
7:24 one invited Europe, isn’t inviting them
7:25 , and doesn’t intend to invite them yet
7:28 >> What was he shouting, right, that
7:29 Borrell, just two days ago? France will
7:31 be at the negotiations.
7:33 >> That was just them fantasizing. We don’t
7:35 discuss sick fantasies here.
7:36 >> Let him out of the garage?
7:38 >> He should have formulated the sentence
7:40 more correctly.
7:42 France will be in Abu Dhabi, that’s how
7:43 he should have said it, without being
7:44 specific.
7:45 >> There.
7:46 >> But I want to say,
7:47 >> a bit simpler.
7:49 >> I want to say that, look, colleagues,
7:52 negotiations between these trilateral
7:54 groups are being conducted.
7:58 In general, there was a leak before the
8:00 talks started that the United States
8:03 proposed an interesting version of an
8:06 agreement, where Ukraine is suggested to
8:08 quickly change the administrative
8:11 composition of its regions—that is, to
8:14 formalize that some parts they currently
8:16 hold, for example, of the Donbas, which
8:19 haven’t been liberated by Russian troops
8:22 yet,
8:23 be transferred to the composition of
8:26 other regions recognized as Ukrainian,
8:29 right?
8:31 Supposedly change the Donbas territory,
8:33 Luhansk, yes, Kherson, and in this way
8:36 freeze the status quo, so that what is
8:38 currently under the control of Russian
8:40 authorities ends up as part of these new
8:43 territories recognized by Russia and
8:45 leave it in Russia.
8:47 >> In fact, to split along the line of
8:50 contact.
8:51 >> There would be, yes, no reasons for
8:53 further discord, no reasons to claim
8:55 these territories.
8:57 But, uh, it’s clear that Ukraine, in
8:59 this case, uh, strongly disagrees with
9:01 this, but I like the Americans '
9:03 approach.
9:04 They are, after all, very persistently
9:06 trying to end the conflict. Like in that
9:09 joke, "by hook or by crook, master, get
9:11 me out of here," right?
9:14 That is why they propose the craziest
9:15 options, but it is good that an active
9:17 brainstorming process is underway, and
9:19 they are thinking about what to do.
9:23 But in this regard, I want to draw
9:25 attention to how not just Europe is
9:27 behaving, but our specific Baltic tigers
9:31 Tiger cubs, uh, that is, uh,
9:35 uh, Lithuania, Lithuania, against the
9:37 backdrop of what is happening, when it
9:40 is already becoming clear that Ukraine
9:42 is on its last legs, when the President
9:45 of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, at the
9:47 Minsk Security Conference, openly voiced
9:50 not even a forecast or a prediction, but
9:53 simply the thoughts of a well-informed
9:55 person that, well, if not this year,
9:57 then early next year, the conflict
9:59 should end.
10:01 The Lithuanian government is allocating
10:03 more than 42 million euros for social
10:05 aid and support for Ukrainians.
10:07 42 million 400,000 euros will go toward
10:11 social, uh, payments.
10:14 At the same time, I want to say that
10:16 these funds are being allocated from
10:18 government borrowing, as the initial
10:21 funding proved insufficient.
10:23 They have already spent a great deal on
10:26 the Ukrainians.
10:29 At the same time, the Lithuanian
10:30 authorities, the very same ones who
10:33 allocated 42 million to support
10:34 Ukrainians on the eve of the end of this
10:37 Ukrainian slaughter.
10:40 So, for 2027, they had budgeted about
10:42 150 million euros for social aid for
10:45 Lithuanians.
10:48 This program includes housing, childcare
10:51 compensation, and free meals for
10:53 schoolchildren.
10:55 But now they have stated that they will
10:58 postpone the implementation of some
10:59 family support measures because there is
11:02 no money.
11:04 That is, out of 150 million euros, I
11:06 understand that 42 million euros will go
11:09 to Ukrainians, while Lithuanian families
11:11 will be left in unheated apartments, and
11:13 Lithuanian children will be left without
11:16 warm milk.
11:18 Yes, Lithuanian pensioners and the
11:20 disabled will be left without help and
11:22 support.
11:24 Well, apparently so. But the prime
11:26 minister is not bothered by any of this
11:30 . He is reassuring citizens, saying that
11:32 the program will still go ahead. Yes,
11:35 but the program will likely need to be
11:37 adjusted. Yes, Konstantin.
11:39 >> I have just one question. Did they shove
11:42 everything you listed into one 150-
11:44 million package?
11:45 >> Well, I assume there was only one
11:48 program, right? There was only one
11:50 program.
11:51 >> So for the whole country, for all 150,
11:53 for all 2.5 million, as they say,
11:56 >> they are not refusing.
11:58 >> to feed all the children,
12:01 to compensate everyone for gas for the
12:03 entire heating season and something like
12:05 50
12:05 >> separately, we will talk more about gas
12:07 later.
12:07 >> We definitely need to talk about
12:08 electricity.
12:09 >> so
12:09 >> Are you preparing something?
12:11 >> I just like how these two news stories
12:13 are juxtaposed; they give their own
12:15 people nothing at all, but to Ukrainians
12:17 , who will soon have to be sent back to
12:19 Ukraine, yes.
12:20 >> But why are we always surprised that
12:23 they agree to give money to someone,
12:25 while inside
12:26 >> we aren't surprised, we just state that
12:28 this is idiocy.
12:29 >> You know, Belarusians might be surprised
12:31 because for them this isn't normal.
12:33 >> But I understand that Antanas should be
12:35 outraged, as a Lithuanian.
12:36 >> And I, as a Lithuanian, should be
12:38 outraged because this affects me here
12:39 too.
12:40 >> How do they distribute the money? In
12:42 practice, someone is actually
12:44 distributing it, right? It goes
12:46 somewhere, it goes somewhere
12:47 >> a fact.
12:48 >> So, it goes where it was promised, right
12:50 >> It goes through second, third, fourth
12:52 hands.
12:53 So, 42 million were distributed, and 4
12:56 million went to the administration of
12:58 the distribution.
13:00 >> Yes.
13:01 >> You know, the most interesting thing is
13:04 that they don't react to criticism at
13:06 all anymore.
13:08 >> Come on.
13:08 >> They just don't care.
13:10 Before, they might have felt some shame
13:13 , or kept quiet, but now they do it
13:16 openly.
13:18 And, for example, regarding this program
13:20 , regarding family aid, they just said
13:22 with a brazen face that there is no
13:23 money.
13:25 There are also questions, as Alexei
13:26 Viktorovich mentioned, about heating,
13:28 there’s another 20 million, but maybe
13:30 >> Later, yes, later.
13:32 >> You see, they just say there is no money
13:35 . With a calm face, there is no money.
13:39 But when funds go to Ukraine, they just
13:43 >> They release money from somewhere, right
13:45 >> We transfer it. Where did they get it
13:47 from? Look what we've come to. They
13:49 don't explain anything to anyone, they
13:51 just transfer the money.
13:53 >> I would correct you for a second here.
13:56 When it goes to Ukraine, it's a sum of
13:57 money for laundering and for their own
13:59 dear, precious selves, right?
14:01 >> That's what I wanted to say, just look,
14:05 almost every week there is some news
14:09 about the corruption in Ukraine.
14:13 The latest video circulating shows the
14:15 most luxurious penthouse.
14:18 It was already written about in
14:19 Lithuania, where the refuge is, where a
14:21 Rolls-Royce is parked, and so on, and so
14:23 on.
14:25 And this is all normal, but now this
14:27 information is starting to leak into our
14:29 public discourse a little.
14:32 Did any of the major portals write about
14:35 this Rolls-Royce that's parked there?
14:38 >> Could it be the god-forsaken Delfi?
14:40 >> No, TV3.
14:42 >> Ah.
14:42 >> TV3...for Delfi, we still have to wait,
14:44 it hasn't reached them yet.
14:47 And you know, every week we see this
14:50 theft, but still, without any problems,
14:53 no one asks questions, they just keep
14:55 sending the money.
14:58 And you know, this is how the
15:00 communication goes from these people who
15:03 make these decisions, they don't even
15:06 explain why Ukraine, well, for example,
15:08 what is the goal for Ukraine?
15:12 It’s unclear. Well, Ukraine.
15:13 >> Listen, and what about
15:14 >> children, the homeless, someone else,
15:17 not at all
15:19 >> all these expenditures, the fact that
15:21 they all go under the label of aid to
15:22 Ukraine, but are then classified.
15:25 >> Absolutely right, we have the same thing
15:28 That is, it is completely unclear where
15:31 it went afterwards, or to some offshore
15:33 accounts or even vague accounts to which
15:35 it is transferred.
15:38 Maybe the money was allocated, and then
15:40 some supposedly secret letter was sent
15:42 to an offshore account because, well,
15:44 it’s secret so the Russians wouldn't
15:46 find out.
15:49 You have to send it somewhere. Well,
15:51 that's how it should be understood.
15:53 But as I said, they used to be ashamed,
15:54 now everything is done directly, they
15:56 don't even pay attention anymore.
15:58 >> Did they stop being ashamed?
16:01 I mean, why is it that now, say, the
16:02 Baltic authorities or certain
16:04 Euro-bureaucrats don't worry at all
16:06 about their ratings and the public's
16:07 opinion of them, right?
16:10 We see that Merz's rating in Germany has
16:13 hit 82%...No, he has 13%support.
16:17 >> For the Lithuanians, it's at the 60-70%
16:19 level, well, the anti-rating, right?
16:23 And no one cares about this, nobody is
16:25 worried about their seats in government
16:27 , about their jobs, or even the prospect
16:29 of some kind of criminal or at least
16:30 administrative prosecution.
16:33 It doesn't bother them at all. And for
16:35 the simple reason that now in European
16:38 countries, in the Baltics in particular
16:41 , the people are no longer the source of
16:43 power, as in a standard democratic
16:46 system. They become the subject of power
16:48 , that which this power is directed at.
16:51 That is, we are literally returning to a
16:53 feudal system, where there are magnates
16:55 and there are serfs who are never asked
16:58 if they like the life they are living.
17:01 They have their quitrent, they have some
17:04 kind of taxes they pay, there is the
17:06 land they work on, and all they can get
17:09 out of their work, out of their lives,
17:11 is just a bowl of soup that allows them
17:14 to survive until tomorrow and not die of
17:16 hunger. So, in principle, we are
17:19 returning to this Middle Ages
17:22 only in such a, such a, such a
17:24 postmodern style.
17:25 >> Well, a certain Fernand Braudel would be
17:27 applauding standing up right now,
17:28 because in his understanding, he was a
17:30 philosopher who viewed sovereignties as
17:32 a whole.
17:33 And the definition he gave of
17:35 sovereignty is very close to what you
17:36 just described: it is the complete,
17:38 total control of the state over its
17:39 citizens.
17:41 >> Well, this is interesting.
17:42 >> You see, if we are talking about the
17:44 fact that the people are no longer the
17:47 source of power, that they don't
17:49 determine who will lead this state, who
17:51 will hold leadership positions, pass
17:54 laws, implement them, or organize the
17:56 execution of this power and its
17:58 maintenance, then, in principle, one
18:00 need not be interested in their opinion
18:03 ; one can do what one wants or what one
18:05 is told, for instance, by directives
18:07 coming down from Brussels or Washington
18:10 . You are literally a state operating by
18:12 a manual, right?
18:14 You sit there, a Lithuanian official
18:16 approved somewhere "up top," maybe even
18:18 a president or prime minister, and you
18:20 are handed a program of 1-2-3, five
18:22 simple points, and you just carry it out
18:24 through your bureaucratic apparatus,
18:26 which has already warmed up at the state
18:28 trough, feels comfortable, and to
18:30 continue having the opportunity to stay
18:32 at this very trough, is ready to oppress
18:34 its own people.
18:36 >> Dmitry, your conclusion—you see, I am
18:38 addressing you formally today, I just
18:40 promised during the broadcast that...
18:42 >> Roman.
18:43 >> I just promised during the broadcast to
18:45 maintain subordination, even though we
18:47 are friends in real life and we use the
18:49 informal "you."
18:52 So, Dmitry, your conclusion fits
18:55 perfectly with the fact that in Latvia,
18:58 as you—as you said, I can't use the
19:00 formal "you," you are my friend and...
19:03 >> I forgive you, Roman.
19:06 >> In short, when they declare that they
19:09 have 1,800,000, you know, as the
19:12 population in the country, it's all
19:15 complete nonsense.
19:17 We have said many times that it's around
19:19 a million, well, someone throws out...
19:21 >> these.
19:22 >> Yes, someone's million, someone says,
19:23 and so on. And exactly what you said,
19:26 that the common people are just service
19:29 staff, slaves, one might say, of this
19:31 whole system, that is a fact. And why
19:34 exactly are these numbers inflated?
19:38 Because, at least previously, it was
19:40 proportional; when they took loans or
19:42 divided some pan-European Brussels
19:44 budgets, they looked at and based it on
19:46 the population size.
19:49 Yes.
19:50 That is, who had how many and so on, and
19:52 naturally, they distributed all this
19:53 money proportionally.
19:56 But today, Latvia, Lithuania, and
19:58 Estonia are the three most rabid, crazy
20:00 countries, through which, or rather,
20:02 most convenient to launder, first of all
20:04 , this money that goes to Ukraine and
20:06 gets lost somewhere there, under the
20:08 guise of military secrets or something
20:10 else, and so on.
20:12 And, of course, they aren't even being
20:15 viewed proportionally today anymore.
20:17 They are just handed them by the sackful
20:19 , because they know they'll be written
20:20 off anyway, which is what we've been
20:22 talking about all along. And why is
20:24 there no conscience? They understand
20:26 that tomorrow or the day after, it will
20:28 all be over. And that is why, as if it
20:30 were the last day, the last time, they
20:33 are going full speed ahead with what
20:35 they are doing.
20:36 >> Well, by the way, for the European
20:38 commoner—let's replace the word "sucker
20:41 " with "commoner."
20:43 >> There are deceived hooligans. There are
20:45 commoners, and then there are their
20:47 commoners.
20:47 >> Yes. So.
20:49 >> Commoners of European commoners.
20:51 >> When will the "re-commoners" appear?
20:55 >> The commoner is told directly by Frau
20:57 Baerbock that the opinion of the Germans
20:59 means absolutely nothing.
21:04 >> I wish the "re-commoners" would show up
21:05 sooner.
21:06 >> A story came to mind.
21:08 Basically, you know how a theft from a
21:10 factory usually happens.
21:13 If the guard notices it at first,
21:15 everyone gets scared and runs off.
21:18 But if you need to make several trips to
21:20 haul everything out, on that last trip,
21:21 you know, you just drive right through
21:23 the gate.
21:25 >> By the way, yes.
21:28 >> So, I see a similar situation here; you
21:29 know, it's not scary anymore, they
21:31 aren't afraid, you can even punch the
21:33 guard in the face.
21:34 >> Sprinkle them with sedan.
21:35 >> I will tell you, friends, why the Baltic
21:37 elites are not afraid of anything today
21:41 Well, they understand that against their
21:43 own people, they have someone to lean on
21:45 The President of Lithuania, in
21:47 particular, stated that on November 16,
21:49 the flag of the United States of America
21:51 will be raised in Pabradė. Two American
21:54 battalions will once again be stationed
21:56 in Lithuania.
21:58 Such happy news, it turns out.
22:01 Since 2019, American military personnel
22:04 have been stationed in Lithuania on a
22:05 rotational basis.
22:07 We saw the uproar there was when they
22:09 were unexpectedly pulled out in the
22:11 summer.
22:12 And then they waited a long, long time
22:14 for them to return.
22:16 Well, at last, Gitanas’s neighbors—
22:18 Gitanas’s neighbors will find happiness
22:20 , as they say.
22:22 But we understand that Americans and
22:23 other NATO members are stationed not
22:25 only in Lithuania, but in other
22:27 countries as well.
22:29 And at the same time, the attitude
22:31 toward these very NATO troops, strangely
22:33 enough, is not very good among the
22:35 people.
22:36 In Latvia, Canadian soldiers complained
22:39 about the hostility of Daugavpils
22:41 residents toward them; they, that is,
22:43 the foreign soldiers, are openly
22:45 insulted by Daugavpils residents who
22:48 show no desire to see them in the
22:50 country.
22:52 Journalists from the STV News group
22:54 reported on this—well, not our STV, but
22:57 theirs, yes.
23:00 And they noted that the citizens of
23:03 Daugavpils express not just a negative,
23:06 but an openly contemptuous attitude
23:09 toward these NATO grunts who are on
23:12 their territory.
23:15 Furthermore, on November 10th, the
23:18 Minister of Foreign Affairs of the
23:21 Republic of Belarus, Maxim Ryzhenkov,
23:25 spoke at the International Forum on
23:28 Collective Security in Moscow, and he
23:31 stated there that a foreign NATO
23:34 contingent of up to 30,000 personnel is
23:38 present in the Baltic states.
23:42 I mean, for a moment, that is more than
23:44 half of the entire Belarusian army put
23:47 together.
23:48 Let’s also add Poland to this, where
23:51 there are also NATO troops concentrated
23:54 and an American base located.
23:57 So, this means we are not even counting
23:59 the armies of the Baltic states
24:01 themselves or Poland itself.
24:03 Therefore, for Belarus, this is
24:05 undoubtedly a serious threat.
24:08 In this regard, the Belarusian Foreign
24:11 Minister pointed out that one can
24:13 clearly see how the spiral of an arms
24:16 race is being rocked and unwound.
24:20 He says it is visible along the
24:21 perimeter of our border, how
24:23 qualitatively and on what scale our
24:24 neighbors are arming themselves.
24:27 Poland, Lithuania, Latvia. He drew
24:30 attention to the calls from our Baltic
24:32 neighbors to increase the NATO and US
24:35 contingent on their territories. So,
24:38 overall, a very unhealthy militaristic
24:40 situation is being noted by our ministry
24:44 Despite the fact that we always advocate
24:46 from a peaceful perspective, always.
24:49 Take the recent Minsk Conference on
24:51 Eurasian Security, where we invited
24:54 representatives from NATO countries and
24:57 our Baltic guests, but they did not
24:59 deign to send delegations. We remember
25:02 that at the previous conference, for
25:05 instance, Péter Szijjártó, then the
25:07 Hungarian Minister of Foreign Affairs
25:09 and Trade, managed to break through,
25:12 He also spoke and said, "I am speaking
25:15 now, and perhaps these words will be
25:17 held against me in Europe as a crime,
25:20 because I am saying that Europe needs to
25:22 build relations with its neighbors, both
25:25 with Russia and Belarus."
25:27 Well, you saw it, didn't you? Within a
25:29 year, Viktor Orbán's government was
25:31 undermined and Szijjártó was removed
25:33 from his post.
25:34 And today we see how Hungary is
25:36 beginning to fulfill—or rather, the new
25:38 Hungarian leadership is beginning to
25:40 fulfill its obligations to the West and
25:42 is also joining this sanctions campaign
25:46 But the situation is like this: you
25:48 understand, we keep insisting that we
25:50 must resolve issues and sit down at the
25:52 negotiating table, but they keep
25:54 insisting that we must arm ourselves and
25:56 invite more and more military personnel
25:58 ; therefore, they couldn't care less
26:00 about their citizens, they know that the
26:02 entire might of NATO stands behind them
26:05 That is what they are happy about.
26:07 >> An interesting situation is unfolding,
26:09 where, yes, there really is this
26:10 thirty-thousand-strong NATO contingent
26:12 on our borders, including American
26:14 troops in particular.
26:16 Well, it's not a very comfortable thing
26:17 , it’s just unpleasant.
26:19 But by and large, if we look at things
26:21 objectively, we can assume that the US
26:24 is hardly interested in entering into
26:26 any direct combat clashes, say, with
26:29 Russia or Belarus, the Union State. It’s
26:31 simply not profitable.
26:34 They act much more effectively in terms
26:36 of soft power, or by using their
26:38 satellites, like the Baltic states,
26:40 Poland, or someone else.
26:42 And Ukraine is the clearest example of
26:44 this.
26:45 So, the fact that they are there, by and
26:48 large, doesn’t make much difference to
26:51 us, because there is no intention or
26:53 prospect of actually using that
26:56 contingent that is there.
26:59 But the problem lies elsewhere, because
27:03 the Baltic countries, feeling behind
27:05 them such strength, support, hope, and
27:07 reliance in the face of these powers
27:10 that be, are shifting to more radical
27:12 rhetoric and may move toward
27:14 provocations; they feel very confident
27:17 and very bold, even though their
27:19 militant rhetoric and other attempts to
27:22 create problems for us in foreign policy
27:24 , diplomatic, or economic spheres are
27:27 completely unsupported.
27:29 So this gives them a certain
27:32 overconfidence and bravado.
27:35 Although, if we talk about something
27:37 more concrete, I think these Baltic
27:38 lapdogs would very quickly run back
27:40 behind their master, who would say, "
27:42 Sorry, guys, I won't step in for you;
27:44 you’re the ones who made this mess, so
27:46 deal with it yourselves."
27:49 >> One second, if I may, literally one
27:51 sentence. It’s like a monkey with a
27:52 grenade. That is all of the Baltic
27:54 political leadership.
27:56 And it is truly frightening that,
27:58 feeling the NATO forces behind their
27:59 backs, they could provoke something.
28:01 >> Look, there's another problem here, too
28:03 Alright, let's say, for instance, they
28:05 really want to host two battalions of
28:06 Americans in the Baltic states.
28:09 They really want it. Fine, the Americans
28:11 don't mind, and we can't object.
28:13 Two battalions have arrived, but they
28:15 will be maintained on Lithuanian money,
28:17 on the money of Lithuanian taxpayers, at
28:19 a time when the social sphere in
28:20 Lithuania is simply collapsing.
28:23 >> You don't mind 42 million, but why don't
28:25 you love the Americans that much?
28:28 So, Ukrainians can be maintained on
28:29 Lithuanian money, but Americans cannot.
28:31 Dmitry, you are being quite mean.
28:33 >> That's not right.
28:34 >> That’s a duty.
28:35 >> That’s different.
28:36 And now, education workers are going out
28:38 to protest because they can't even get a
28:39 10 percent salary indexation, because
28:41 they can't keep up with inflation, they
28:43 are simply getting poorer by the day.
28:46 And there is no money to pay them. The
28:47 government is offering them some
28:49 compromise options. Let’s say we give
28:50 you 500 euros now, and another 500 in
28:52 six months. Well, that is what is
28:55 >> No. Everything went to the Ukrainians
28:57 and the Americans.
28:57 >> By the way, I will continue.
28:59 >> The balancing act, which is, well, just
29:01 ridiculous to watch.
29:03 >> I will continue your thought. First,
29:04 what Alexei Viktorovich mentioned, that
29:06 they are going to raise the flag.
29:09 What does it mean when a flag is raised
29:11 on some territory? What is the sign,
29:14 what does it mean for this territory? It
29:16 is the master now.
29:17 >> Sovereignty.
29:18 >> What does a master do when they take new
29:21 territories? Where do they feed
29:23 themselves from? They don’t feed from
29:26 the metropolis, they feed from these
29:28 territories. It’s all like in the old
29:30 days, nothing new at all. Lithuania is
29:33 paying for these troops. But you know, I
29:35 see something else, too.
29:37 Could it be that these troops are
29:40 specifically there so that if the insane
29:43 Lithuanian government decides to carry
29:47 out a provocation with the Republic of
29:50 Belarus or an escalation that isn't
29:53 according to the Americans' plan, then
29:56 these troops are there and might perhaps
29:59 create some obstacles.
30:03 Not a single Lithuanian, not a single,
30:06 excuse the expression, psychopath from
30:09 the Riflemen's Union, similar to what
30:11 there was in Poland, will dare to say a
30:14 word to an American soldier.
30:17 Keep that in mind.
30:20 Could it be that the Americans arrived
30:23 here on purpose to become the local
30:26 jailers, if our people decide to dance
30:29 to the European tune?
30:33 And I think, by the way, we should think
30:35 about this.
30:37 This is because the decision to withdraw
30:39 the troops and then supposedly return
30:41 them—most likely, some plans have
30:43 changed, because the Americans, well,
30:45 they didn’t just get tired and then
30:47 decide to return—this isn't Carlson.
30:51 >> They didn't come back for nothing.
30:53 And I think that some kind of oversight
30:54 is still needed.
30:56 They aren't sure, most likely, Trump and
31:00 his entire apparatus aren't sure,
31:02 because our people are, well, not
31:05 predictable in any way. And, perhaps,
31:08 that is why they need to be called in.
31:10 And they raised the flag so that people
31:12 would understand—we are still the master
31:15 , yes, we are.
31:17 And I am the boss, and we are the ones
31:18 who will decide everything here. This is
31:20 all quite enough. Yes, he is before the
31:23 public, look, and he said it all quite
31:24 beautifully, too. They promised to
31:26 return, and they returned.
31:28 That’s it, everyone is sitting pretty,
31:30 everyone is satisfied. And if something
31:32 doesn't go to plan, they will quickly
31:34 settle things the American way, at the
31:36 expense of the Lithuanian taxpayers.
31:38 >> Well, what I want to say is, whether we
31:41 should fear this presence or not, the
31:44 Belarusian Foreign Minister Maxim
31:46 Ryzhenkov stated that Belarus does not
31:48 intend to militarize or mirror the
31:51 policies of its western neighbors,
31:53 because in Belarus we have better ways
31:56 to spend our money.
31:59 We have social issues and social
32:01 programs that require funding.
32:04 Therefore, we have built an effective,
32:07 as we believe, security system, relying
32:10 primarily on our closest ally in the
32:14 Union State of Russia and Belarus, that
32:17 is, the Russian Federation.
32:21 We have a treaty on security guarantees
32:24 between Belarus and Russia.
32:26 And, accordingly, we are guaranteed
32:28 support from Russia with the entire
32:30 arsenal of Russian weaponry.
32:32 Something worth thinking about.
32:34 >> Forgive me, but in radio breaks, across
32:36 half of Latvia where we broadcast
32:37 perfectly, instead of commercial spots,
32:39 we should remind them that we have a red
32:41 button.
32:42 Sometimes we can even
32:45 >> Well, we
32:46 >> or rather, we can.
32:47 >> We don't strive to rob our own people
32:50 just to carry out some kind of pointless
32:53 militarization, because we consider the
32:56 resources we have today to be sufficient
33:01 If anyone tries to intrude, they will
33:03 receive a worthy response. But, in
33:05 principle, one must understand that we
33:07 are ready for this. And the exercises we
33:10 conduct periodically, the constant
33:13 combat readiness checks carried out by
33:16 the President of the Republic of Belarus
33:19 , and the assets we have—which should
33:22 not be forgotten—like the Oreshnik, and
33:25 the tactical nuclear weapons provided to
33:28 us by the Russian Federation, they do
33:31 their job.
33:33 And if it comes to that, the Baltic
33:36 countries should probably learn from the
33:38 Belarusians how to rationally use
33:41 limited resources, frankly speaking, to
33:43 ensure their own security.
33:47 More
33:47 >> resources
33:48 >> Well, they suffer more from a lack of
33:50 intelligence here.
33:52 So. With all that said, with all that
33:55 said, I really like Gitanas Nausėda.
33:59 He happily talks about how foreign
34:01 troops are arriving, and that he is
34:04 ready to feed and water them at his own
34:06 expense.
34:08 After that, he says that
34:10 >> Foreign troops.
34:12 >> After that, he says that at present, a
34:14 conventional attack by Russia on NATO
34:16 territory is likely impossible.
34:21 But he believes that there could be
34:22 provocations from Russian President
34:23 Vladimir Putin, and that they may
34:25 continue.
34:27 I just don't know. He says, "I don't
34:29 think Russia is currently ready for
34:31 large-scale operations." Russia's
34:33 resources are tied up on the Ukrainian
34:35 battlefield, and Russia is not achieving
34:37 success there. Well, that is very
34:39 reckless of him, he is poorly informed.
34:43 But, I mean, on one hand, he sees that
34:45 Russia is not currently threatening the
34:48 Baltics, or Lithuania in particular, yet
34:50 they still spend crazy money on inviting
34:52 more and more foreign mercenaries who
34:55 are hated by their own people.
34:58 I want to remind you of even more. Now,
35:00 Roman, about your beloved Latvia. Today
35:03 , November 11th, is a holiday there.
35:05 >> Oh, that's right.
35:07 >> Lāčplēsis Day.
35:09 >> The 18th is coming soon.
35:11 >> Let me remind you that this Lāčplēsis is
35:14 a national mythical hero of sorts.
35:17 >> ears.
35:18 >> Yes, he had a hat with bear ears.
35:20 >> not a hat with bear ears. No.
35:23 >> Yes, that’s what it says in the epic,
35:26 which was created, let me also remind
35:28 you, not so long ago, in 1888 by a
35:31 certain writer, Pumpurs.
35:34 Fairy tales and legends were collected,
35:35 beautifully adapted, and this very epic
35:37 about Lāčplēsis was created, right?
35:40 And here is what’s interesting.
35:42 First of all, I liked the comments of
35:45 many Latvian specialists and experts.
35:48 >> read it out loud, so I don't have to.
35:50 Just the first line.
35:52 >> What? Well, the fact that he had a bear
35:55 for a mother is one thing.
35:57 But he did have a hat with bear ears.
36:00 Wait. The most important thing, Roman,
36:02 wait, the most important thing is not
36:03 that.
36:04 But in general, this epic, which today
36:06 forms the basis of an entire national
36:09 holiday, where they run around
36:10 beautifully with torches and candles,
36:13 take some oaths, and commemorate their
36:15 fallen heroes.
36:17 Who did this Lāčplēsis fight against?
36:19 >> Against the German, against the Black
36:20 Knight.
36:21 >> against the Black Knight. The threat
36:22 came from the West. It was clearly
36:24 written that way back in the 19th
36:26 century. That is, the Latvians have long
36:29 considered the threat from the West to
36:31 be the Germans, and that they were
36:35 the main enemies. Today, for some reason
36:37 , this holiday is filled with some kind
36:40 of Russophobic rhetoric.
36:42 Well, you understand, let’s, let’s
36:44 congratulate the Latvian people, who
36:46 have always fought against invaders from
36:49 the West, against the Black Knights, the
36:51 Crusaders. Unfortunately, judging by the
36:54 epic, yes, it all ended very sadly.
36:56 Lāčplēsis died.
36:58 >> He saved them at the cost of his own
36:59 life.
37:00 >> No, but many interpret it as a very sad
37:02 epic that shouldn't be taught to
37:04 children at all, because it instills bad
37:06 thoughts that Latvians are a small
37:08 nation and they will always perish.
37:11 But we express, we express our
37:13 solidarity with the Latvian people in
37:15 the fight against these Western threats
37:17 , against the Western Black Knights.
37:20 >> something like that.
37:20 >> and in the fight against my toy soldiers
37:25 >> Read, read your own classics yourselves
37:27 , yes, before building an absolutely
37:29 incorrect worldview in the heads of your
37:31 citizens, read your own myths and
37:33 legends from a little over a century ago
37:35 to see what they say.
37:39 >> Alexey Viktorovich, look, we we we
37:41 already determined that in this mythical
37:43 epic, yes, Mother Bear.
37:46 And who do we And who is called a bear
37:48 in general?
37:50 Russia.
37:50 >> Russia?
37:51 >> They are our relatives.
37:53 Just lost little ones.
37:55 Well, they got a bit lost.
37:56 >> That’s a complex way to start from afar
37:58 >> These are our people, after all.
37:59 >> Roman, after their words, they will have
38:01 to rewrite their entire epic.
38:03 >> Not the epic, their brains.
38:04 >> The main thing is that they don’t ban it
38:06 . They should understand that these are
38:08 our people, they are actually Slavs.
38:10 We will always forgive them, we will pat
38:12 them on the head, say that you are good
38:13 , but you just got a little lost.
38:15 >> Yura is not here to see this.
38:17 >> Well, Yura, yes, Yura, of course,
38:18 perceived all of this negatively. But I
38:20 want to add something else.
38:22 I’ll be quick, just for half an hour
38:23 about your favorite thing.
38:26 Listen, you have to scare the local
38:28 people. Otherwise, how would you steal?
38:30 We have talked about this many times.
38:32 And secondly, they are indeed provoking
38:34 . They are trying to block Kaliningrad
38:36 now, that is no secret to anyone. Many
38:39 military experts are saying that it is
38:41 already, in principle, problematic to
38:44 deliver anything by land to Kaliningrad
38:47 itself. Any cargo.
38:49 >> The sea route.
38:50 >> They are trying the sea route too. They
38:53 have been trying, by the way, for a long
38:54 time, let's put it that way, to block it
38:56 Well, our tankers just go there and plus
38:59 , what are they called?
39:01 >> I specifically asked Zhorik, that's my
39:04 ChatGPT, I asked him. I said, listen,
39:08 what if we imagine a purely virtual
39:10 military confrontation between
39:13 Kaliningrad as a state and Latvia,
39:16 Lithuania, and Estonia separately?
39:20 Zhorik said that the Baltics have no
39:22 chance individually against Kaliningrad
39:25 because Kaliningrad is a heavily armed
39:27 bastion that has its own nuclear weapons
39:29 , its own power grid, by the way, and
39:31 its own intelligence assets, where radar
39:34 reconnaissance covers the entire Baltic
39:38 >> In confirmation of your words, recently
39:41 some Lithuanian prognostic analytical
39:43 center also stated that there are no
39:46 chances of winning at all.
39:48 >> No.
39:49 >> Yes, sorry.
39:50 >> I'm talking about the trail of this bear
39:53 , Russia.
39:54 Lithuania, well, I'll provide a fact, we
39:57 talked a little about Krakow.
39:59 So the headline sounds like this, let me
40:01 translate.
40:02 After the bloody shooting in Krakow,
40:05 shocking details.
40:07 Coming to light is...
40:10 the Russian trace.
40:11 >> Everything as usual, listen.
40:14 >> I don't know about other publications,
40:16 but in Lithuania, one publication dared
40:19 , others didn't, but one did write such
40:21 a thing. Of course, all the people took
40:24 it as a joke already. How could we live
40:26 without that, we were waiting for this
40:27 news.
40:28 >> I had a classmate, a completely
40:30 wonderful guy.
40:32 >> Is Putin to blame?
40:33 >> No, it's a bit different there. A
40:35 completely, completely unique person. Hi
40:38 There. He was a cool guy, but he
40:40 practically didn't speak Latvian. He
40:42 didn't need to.
40:43 >> Putin is to blame.
40:45 >> So, he went to take his Latvian exam in
40:47 the twelfth grade and only knew one
40:49 topic.
40:51 About boxers.
40:52 He pulls a ticket, and it’s about
40:54 cyclists.
40:56 And he says in Russian: "They are on
40:59 bicycles, but actually, they are boxers
41:02 ."
41:04 And he starts talking about boxers.
41:10 >> And if a fish had fur, it would have
41:12 fleas, and well, fleas are...
41:15 >> Something like that.
41:16 Something like that.
41:18 >> No, well, regarding, regarding the
41:20 Russian trace, yes.
41:22 First of all, well, we started there,
41:25 for example, yes, with the planes that
41:28 many were announced to be...that they
41:30 ...No, planes.
41:33 Last week there were about 30 false
41:36 reports that they were mined, so the
41:39 planes returned to the airports from
41:41 which they took off.
41:44 A couple of times, fighter jets were
41:46 scrambled to escort them over Italy.
41:49 There.
41:50 At the same time, they immediately began
41:53 to say that perhaps, perhaps, this is a
41:56 Russian hybrid war against Europe,
41:59 although there is no evidence, but there
42:02 is such wonderful proof as: "That is...
42:05 because...because, yes, well, because
42:07 gladiolus."
42:09 Why Russia? Well, just because. That is
42:12 , there is no direct evidence.
42:14 Meanwhile, the American agency Bloomberg
42:16 even printed an article saying, citing
42:18 some unnamed foreign intelligence
42:20 services, that the issue of Russia's
42:22 involvement in these planes is currently
42:25 being investigated.
42:27 Now, what Antanas is saying, that
42:29 supposedly this shooter is also...What
42:32 kind of Russian trace could there be?
42:35 It’s unclear, because the person was
42:37 interested in Hitlerites and the Aryan
42:39 race.
42:40 He had the corresponding patches on his
42:42 uniform. That is, well, it’s very
42:45 difficult to drag a Russian trace into
42:48 But we'll drag it in, we'll drag it in,
42:50 right? That is, this attempt to stretch
42:52 an owl over a globe, which they are
42:54 undertaking today. Just look at why you
42:56 have this.
42:58 You understand, so much happened all at
43:00 once in one week.
43:02 That is, this swatting occurred, related
43:05 to the false bomb threats.
43:08 These cyberattacks on refrigerators
43:09 happened. Look at Estonia, it suffered;
43:12 it lost a certain number of kilograms of
43:14 sausages in supermarket refrigerators.
43:18 So, there was this mass shooting in
43:21 Poland. Everywhere it’s the trace of
43:23 Russia. Well, it’s ridiculous. Think
43:24 about who is doing this.
43:27 Hacker kids who grew up today with an
43:30 iPhone in one place, who navigate the
43:32 new digital world perfectly, and who
43:35 today crack the most complex security
43:38 systems just like that, with a snap of
43:40 their fingers.
43:42 And if we are talking about the Baltics
43:44 , well, their systems are the simplest
43:46 ones; they haven't updated them, they
43:48 made them for pennies.
43:49 >> Well, they did allocate money, yes.
43:51 >> Well, at the same time, yes, they are
43:53 completely porous, and it wouldn't be
43:55 hard to download citizens 'data from
43:57 anywhere.
43:59 And so it's really difficult to talk
44:00 about cybersecurity here at all. Just
44:02 look at why.
44:04 Look at the fact that over these
44:06 holidays in Lithuania, I believe 15
44:08 teenagers were brought to the hospital
44:11 in states of alcohol and drug
44:13 intoxication, right?
44:15 So children are walking around under the
44:17 influence there.
44:18 The authorities don't care about this at
44:21 all, do they? They are looking for a
44:23 Russian trace instead of understanding
44:25 why your own citizens are grabbing
44:27 weapons, why your own citizens are
44:29 starting these false bomb threats. Think
44:32 about that.
44:34 Because the young people who are out of
44:36 work have nothing to do, they sit in
44:38 their gadgets to pass the time.
44:42 They brag to their friends about how
44:44 cool and great they are.
44:47 They read a huge number of various
44:49 insane ideas and doctrines on the
44:51 internet that are being pushed today.
44:54 And then, under the influence of
44:56 unhealthy substances and narcotics, they
44:58 begin to carry out these doctrines.
45:00 >> I would like to disagree with you.
45:03 What you're saying about children
45:05 sitting at computers is, in principle,
45:08 something only parents who are, let's
45:10 say, middle-class or wealthy can afford
45:13 today.
45:15 Let me explain why. Because, uh, in
45:17 connection with these utility bills and
45:19 , and internet service prices, well,
45:22 believe me, everyone is surviving as
45:24 they can. And secondly, more children
45:27 today are actually out in the courtyards
45:30 , and there is an unreal amount of drugs
45:33 and alcohol available right there. I
45:36 follow one girl who lives in Ķengarags,
45:38 and Ķengarags has always been known for
45:41 its...
45:42 >> characteristic.
45:43 >> Let's say, a negative characteristic of
45:45 this neighborhood. And it used to be the
45:48 most disadvantaged one.
45:50 And she travels all around Riga,
45:52 communicating with, well, let's say, hmm
45:54 ...
45:55 >> Margi-marginalized.
45:56 >> marginalized layers of society, yes, in
45:59 Riga. She goes to all the districts. She
46:01 was even in my native Purvciems, where I
46:04 grew up.
46:06 And an unreal number of people
46:07 participate in her video blogs.
46:11 Obviously, for her, it's hype, some
46:13 monetization, and money, but what she
46:15 shows makes you horrified.
46:17 I would like, by the way, even if
46:19 possible, I don't know, in the comments
46:22 later, for those watching the replay,
46:24 let's say, I will write it in the
46:26 comments, just go and watch. This is not
46:28 something I made up out of my head or
46:30 anything like that. It is genuinely
46:33 present today. And you can see things
46:35 there that will just blow your mind. You
46:37 have such an idea of what's going on
46:39 there, Belarusians can't even imagine it
46:43 >> I want to add a little bit more to this
46:45 , I recently spoke with a psychiatrist
46:47 from Lithuania, and just as you were
46:49 talking about the youth.
46:51 He told me some interesting facts, and
46:54 it really surprised me.
46:57 It turns out that in psychiatry, all the
47:00 norms are heading toward the idea that
47:02 if a teenager isn't taking
47:04 antidepressants,
47:07 >> Well, that's
47:07 >> that's already an abnormal child. So
47:10 there are two options now.
47:12 Either they are using some kind of drugs
47:15 , or smoking weed.
47:17 And if they don't want the first or the
47:20 second, you have to give them
47:22 antidepressants because they're
47:23 hyperactive. I asked him to repeat it
47:26 twice. Is this for real? He says, "Yes,
47:29 it is actually happening already."
47:34 Especially in America, it has already
47:35 started in some states.
47:38 They just prescribe packs upon packs to
47:40 these kids, well, teenagers 19 or 20
47:43 years old.
47:44 And then they are surprised later.
47:48 How come the youth don't want to work,
47:50 aren't interested in anything?
47:52 They got hooked on something, an app on
47:54 their phone, and that's where they live
47:56 They just have a parallel world. And
47:59 don't forget, another madness is about
48:02 to start.
48:04 Rockstar's game, GTA VI, is coming out
48:07 soon.
48:10 People, teenagers, young adults who work
48:13 , are taking vacation time and just
48:15 starting to live in that other world.
48:20 But what will that world show them?
48:23 When I was in prison, I played the fifth
48:25 one and lived in there for three months
48:27 I’m not complaining, time just flew by
48:30 like that. I'm telling you, I was living
48:33 there, not here.
48:34 But it was mainly good when I just
48:37 needed to kill time.
48:40 But when a person is supposed to work,
48:42 think about their family, their children
48:44 , and get off their parents' necks,
48:47 It’s like that. They won't do that;
48:49 they’ll just sit and hang out in that
48:53 world. And that will change a lot of
48:55 things.
48:57 They are already saying that even the
48:59 economy will be affected by this release
49:02 because everyone is taking time off en
49:04 masse.
49:06 I’ve seen videos where other young
49:08 people are already in hysterics.
49:10 "If they don't give me time off, I'll
49:12 just quit my job because of this game."
49:15 If that's the case. Well, what are you
49:17 >> To solve the problem, raise the prices
49:18 of computers.
49:19 >> If I suddenly disappear, you know where
49:21 to look for me.
49:24 >> But I was listening to all this
49:26 cyber-nonsense and realized that you
49:29 focused on the wrong hack.
49:32 Absolutely the wrong one. And in reality
49:35 , there is a hack that cost the exchange
49:38 >> Uh.
49:39 >> Binance.
49:41 Five point six billion dollars.
49:44 >> American exchange, get it?
49:46 >> This is a planetary-scale exchange.
49:48 >> Yes, it's international.
49:49 >> A planetary exchange; there are only two
49:51 of them—Binance and Bybit. Binance got
49:53 hit for 3.2 billion last year, and Bybit
49:55 for 5.6 this year.
49:58 Although they couldn't take all 5.6,
50:00 they got away with about 2.8 billion,
50:02 but the fact remains.
50:05 >> The numbers?
50:05 >> They didn't find a Russian trace.
50:07 >> No, almost everyone is 100%sure that
50:09 it's Lazarus, the North Korean group.
50:14 North Korea, you see, has major problems
50:16 with, how should I put it, currency
50:18 liquidity.
50:20 There you go. And that's why Lazarus
50:22 regularly pulls off these things. So,
50:24 these are people in state service. The
50:26 state there, by the way, has a very good
50:27 school of mathematics. They basically
50:29 inherited everything from the Soviet
50:30 Union. Very excellent.
50:31 >> A Russian trace. Well, I told you, a
50:33 Russian trace.
50:34 >> Very Soviet, Soviet.
50:37 They have a very good school of applied
50:39 mathematics and theoretical physics. By
50:41 the way, quite a decent school.
50:44 And they are known for hacking—you see,
50:46 they are masters of worms.
50:48 What just happened now is effectively a
50:50 worm.
50:52 It attacks...look, it attacked a
50:54 specific type of industrial equipment.
50:57 The same story happened with Stuxnet,
50:59 when for a long time...It's a worm.
51:02 That's the worm that set the Iranian
51:04 nuclear program back by two or three
51:06 years.
51:08 It just wrecked everything it could
51:10 reach. But its mission was specifically
51:12 to reach the centrifuges.
51:14 And it destroyed over 1,000 centrifuges
51:19 And this worm...this worm destroyed
51:21 freezing equipment because certain
51:22 mechanical parameters of that hardware
51:24 matched, and it was able to spread on
51:25 that hardware.
51:27 That's it. It took it down.
51:30 But Binance, of course—oh, not Binance,
51:32 I apologize. Yes, Binance. That is, of
51:34 course, the heist of the year, I think.
51:36 The most expensive heist of the year.
51:37 >> Well, the year isn't over yet.
51:40 >> Oh-oh-oh, wait, the bar is set very high
51:42 —5.6 billion.
51:43 >> Yes, yes, yes.
51:45 >> But you think there won't be another
51:46 attempt?
51:48 I think it happens every day; the
51:50 situation right now is that they didn't
51:52 just hack...you see, in just this past
51:54 month, several events have occurred in
51:56 the IT world that are even more global
51:58 than what we started with today, like
52:00 how the European Union wasn't allowed to
52:03 take the throne.
52:05 There. Or rather, the European
52:06 Commission wasn't allowed to take the
52:07 throne.
52:09 There is this thing called "AI coding."
52:11 It’s when you describe what you want to
52:14 get, and the machine generates an agent
52:16 for you that writes the code, checks it
52:18 for bugs itself, and modifies it if
52:20 necessary to solve the assigned task.
52:24 It all started when some guy tells his
52:27 personal AI agent, "Listen, can you sign
52:29 me up for a gym workout?"
52:32 The agent says, "Let me check."
52:35 And when it started communicating with
52:37 the machine on the other end, it turned
52:39 out that you could simply cancel someone
52:40 else's booking.
52:43 Nobody even asked him to.
52:44 And the agent replies, saying, "You've
52:46 moved up one spot." He says, "Listen, is
52:48 it possible to make it so I'm first on
52:50 the list?"
52:51 "
52:51 >> Well, you can cancel everyone.""
52:52 >> You can." And he kicked everyone off.
52:54 Just imagine that.
52:55 >> And I, well, you know
52:56 >> the mechanism. And then something
52:58 absolutely mind-blowing begins.
53:00 People are starting to find things that
53:03 used to require a whole team of
53:05 high-class programmers, and now one
53:07 person can do it in about 40 minutes. I
53:10 mean, a critical vulnerability in the
53:12 PHP protocol was found in just 40
53:14 minutes.
53:15 To understand, 85%of the internet runs
53:17 on the PHP protocol.
53:20 >> This bug, which was found by a
53:22 twelve-year-old kid interested in
53:24 computers, allows for the execution of
53:27 any arbitrary code on any machine
53:29 running PHP.
53:32 It is very dangerous.
53:33 >> Kosya, you're talking about theft, right
53:36 ? Large sums, Binance, stock markets,
53:40 and so on. I felt ashamed for Latvia.
53:42 There’s nothing to steal. They take out
53:44 a loan and just leave.
53:46 >> I think it was Latvians, I could be
53:48 wrong, maybe it was Lithuanians after
53:49 all, but I think it was Latvians.
53:52 Recently, just this year, scammers
53:55 swiped 1,600,000 euros.
53:57 >> Oh, why are you making things up? We
53:58 aren't looking for that. Where would we
54:00 get a million from?
54:01 >> Somehow they managed it. Maybe it’s
54:02 actually the grandmothers who are
54:04 pooling their money.
54:05 >> to give to Ukraine.
54:06 >> Well, that, yes, that I will believe.
54:10 >> Well, our dear radio listeners, our dear
54:12 viewers, on this semi-joking note, we
54:14 are wrapping up today's broadcast.
54:17 You have something to discuss and
54:19 something to think about.
54:21 But most importantly, of course, the
54:23 current Baltic authorities aren't really
54:25 looking out for your interests.
54:29 They are more interested in their
54:31 overseas masters, stationing their
54:33 little soldiers there, and providing
54:36 funds to some distant Ukrainians.
54:39 That is what is being pondered today, at
54:41 your expense, of course.
54:43 That is what is being discussed in the
54:46 high offices of Riga Castle, or in the
54:48 presidential palace in Vilnius. I am
54:51 more than sure that they are thinking
54:53 about the same thing in Estonia.
54:55 Take a sober look at what is happening
54:57 in your countries and draw the
54:59 appropriate conclusions.
55:01 And let me remind you that today on
55:04 Baltic Wave, our guest was talking with
55:06 you. That is Roman Samul, a blogger who
55:08 arrived in Belarus from Latvia. This is
55:10 Lithuanian politician, entrepreneur, and
55:13 blogger Antanas Kandrotas.
55:15 Also a blogger who fled from Latvia to
55:18 Belarus, known online as Solomon
55:20 Bernstein, though we know him as
55:23 Konstantin Rudakov.
55:26 And Belarusian analyst, political
55:27 scientist, and Deputy Chairman of the
55:31 , Dmitry Zasukhin.
55:32 I spoke with them all, I am Alexei
55:34 Belyaev, a Belarusian journalist,
55:35 political scientist, and historian.
55:38 We are saying goodbye for today, but we
55:39 urge you to look forward to the next
55:41 episodes of our program.
55:42 They air daily from Monday to Friday.
55:45 Catch us on the radio and watch us on
55:48 video platforms. On YouTube, the channel
55:50 is called "On the Baltic Wave." There is
55:53 a "Grains of Freedom" channel on the VK
55:59 There is a "Grains of Freedom" Telegram
56:00 channel, where you can see announcements
56:02 and links to our broadcast.
56:05 So listen, watch, and everything will be
56:07 fine for you.
56:08 That is all for today, friends. See you
56:10 next time.
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