0:01 Belarus welcomes efforts to resolve the
0:03 conflict in Ukraine and Russia's
0:05 flexible position in these negotiations
0:07 . Alexander Lukashenko stated this
0:08 yesterday at the CSTO summit in Moscow.
0:11 However, the issues on the
0:12 organization's agenda go far beyond the
0:16 The future of our military bloc, hybrid
0:18 threats from Western countries, internal
0:21 contradictions, and the new face of
0:22 warfare, from drones to hackers.
0:25 How can the CSTO respond to the
0:27 challenges of the new era? Our observer
0:29 Alexey Volkov looked into the topic.
0:33 >> Moscow, November 11, Collective Security
0:35 Treaty Organization summit.
0:38 Formally, it’s a routine meeting; in
0:39 reality, it’s a meeting in a world that
0:42 has changed so much that the old rules
0:58 >> War has been ongoing in Ukraine for four
1:00 years. Iran has been bombed in the
1:01 Middle East. NATO has announced its
1:04 largest military spending in 30 years.
1:11 And within the CSTO itself, Armenia is
1:13 publicly announcing its intention to
1:15 withdraw from the organization.
1:17 >> What is the primary factor? It's not
1:19 about how we feel about this, but about
1:21 how Armenia—or rather, not so much the
1:23 people of Armenia, but its top
1:25 leadership—has begun to view the
1:27 country’s participation in integration
1:30 structures like the CSTO and the
1:36 In reality, all these steps being taken
1:39 amount to passive participation—using
1:41 certain knowledge and advantages gained
1:43 from being part of these alliances for
1:45 selfish interests that, let’s say, do
1:48 not align with the goals of the
1:55 Because we want to be strong, we want to
1:57 be united on political, economic, and
2:01 >> The questions on the table are tough.
2:03 Can a military bloc created on the
2:05 fragments of the Soviet Union compete
2:07 with NATO, which has since doubled in
2:10 And most importantly, what should be
2:12 done about threats that no longer come
2:14 with tanks, but with bots, hackers, and
2:19 >> The creation of the CSTO was, first and
2:22 foremost, aimed at halting the accession
2:24 of other former Soviet republics into
2:31 To halt it as much as was possible.
2:34 But there wasn't enough time to cover,
2:36 for example, Eastern Europe or the
2:38 former Soviet Baltic republics.
2:45 The first topic of the summit is
2:47 external threats. And here, Alexander
2:49 Lukashenko said what people in Europe
2:51 prefer not to say out loud.
2:55 >> Although we are blamed, especially
2:57 Belarus and Russia, for preparing for
2:59 war by 2030 and being ready to fight
3:01 against NATO and the entire European
3:03 Union, there is nothing of the sort in
3:07 We have already spoken about this
3:09 several times, as has Russia.
3:13 On the contrary, we see significant
3:15 spending by Europeans on so-called
3:19 The question is—from whom?
3:22 Regarding the engineering equipment of
3:24 borders and border territories, the
3:26 figure of 15 billion dollars has been
3:28 voiced; they are supposed to fortify the
3:33 But the danger lies in the fact that
3:35 troops and special units are training
3:37 right at our borders.
3:41 And the danger is that the
3:42 militarization of Western countries
3:45 Hundreds of billions of dollars are
3:47 being spent on arms purchases.
3:50 It is clear that it is not us who are
3:51 planning to fight here, but whoever is
3:53 buying this weaponry.
3:55 >> The logic is simple.
3:57 15 billion for border reinforcement is
3:59 not defense; someone spending hundreds
4:02 of billions on weapons intends to use
4:04 them, otherwise the market simply
4:10 But can the CSTO and NATO work together
4:12 , at least in the format of peacekeeping
4:14 ? This is not a rhetorical question.
4:16 Ukraine, the Middle East, Africa—there
4:19 are plenty of conflicts, and
4:20 theoretically, both structures could act
4:23 as guarantors of agreements, provided,
4:25 of course, that a dialogue begins.
4:28 >> There are military-political structures
4:30 —NATO, the CSTO—which, well, technically
4:33 could fulfill the role of both security
4:40 act as a monitoring body for any
4:45 Again, well, there are also third
4:47 countries that could be involved in the
4:49 interests of both the CSTO and NATO.
4:54 And they could be countries proposed by
4:56 NATO but agreed upon by the CSTO, and
5:00 >> The keyword is "if."
5:03 If NATO does not use peacekeeping as a
5:05 pretext for expansion, if both sides
5:07 agree on neutral observers in Ukraine,
5:09 for instance, if political will proves
5:11 stronger than ambition.
5:14 On our side, everything is in place. The
5:16 ball is in the court of the winds of
5:17 change, but will they take advantage of
5:20 >> Look at how our Western neighbors have
5:22 expanded the concept of a hybrid threat
5:25 They have included illegal migration and
5:27 smuggling in it—things, by the way, in
5:30 which they themselves are primarily
5:33 Despite all the declarations about its
5:36 defensive nature, the pan-European
5:38 anti-hybrid system often operates beyond
5:40 the borders of the European Union,
5:42 conducting subversive activities in
5:49 An example is the European Union's task
5:51 forces for countering hybrid threats,
5:53 deployed ahead of important election
5:56 campaigns in a number of post-Soviet
5:58 states, supposedly to counter foreign
6:03 It turns out quite interesting—
6:05 interference for the purpose of
6:06 countering interference.
6:08 >> And in such conditions of geopolitical
6:10 turbulence, it is important to sort
6:12 things out within the organization
6:13 itself, because Pashinyan's demarche is
6:15 a precedent and a fire that must be
6:17 extinguished immediately.
6:19 >> The CSTO is not some kind of
6:21 entertainment club where one can freely
6:23 enter, exit, and so on.
6:26 There are obligations there, and even
6:28 though they are spelled out in the
6:29 charter, they need to be toughened,
6:31 because, presumably, within the
6:33 framework of the CSTO, significant
6:35 assistance was provided to Armenia,
6:36 Kyrgyzstan, and so on. There must be
6:38 some mandatory obligations. I have said
6:41 that the CSTO needs to expand; there is
6:43 a format, one could create a "CSTO Plus
6:46 " format, and last year in Beijing a
6:48 document was signed on joint activities
6:51 , a roadmap for the CSTO, SCO, and CIS.
6:54 This is also very important for the CSTO
6:57 >> And now the main theme of the summit is
6:59 a new war, a war without tanks or
7:01 airplanes, but with hackers, bots,
7:03 algorithms, and artificial intelligence
7:06 >> It is not without reason that our
7:08 Western opponents say it is cheaper to
7:10 mobilize algorithms than armies.
7:14 There is a fundamental shift in the
7:16 nature of military conflicts from
7:18 classical combat operations to
7:20 asymmetric, low-cost tools of influence
7:26 Targeted hacker attacks, bot armies, the
7:29 use of proxy hacker groups, and
7:30 generating fakes are incomparably
7:32 cheaper than strategic bombers and
7:34 cruise missiles, yet they can cause
7:41 All this is aimed at the internal
7:43 undermining of a state, which is no less
7:45 dangerous for people than military
7:48 >> That is the formula for the new war. A
7:50 bomber costs billions; a bot farm costs
7:52 thousands. A cruise missile destroys
7:54 buildings; a deepfake destroys a
7:56 politician’s reputation. A tank is
7:58 visible on a satellite. A hacker attack
8:00 is not recognized until the last moment
8:02 , and our president urges us to
8:04 acknowledge that this is far from a
8:06 >> The CSTO must not
8:09 >> remain on the sidelines of modern
8:11 technological processes, especially when
8:13 it comes to sovereignty and national
8:18 Artificial intelligence is in the same
8:21 >> Just add a little political will. The
8:23 most precise diagnosis from Alexander
8:25 Lukashenko. It seems that this is
8:27 precisely the component the CSTO lacks
8:29 in order to have much greater influence
8:31 . Especially since the arms race is now
8:33 extending far beyond the borders of
8:36 >> CSTO Deputy Secretary General Taalatbek
8:38 Masadykov said that we are currently
8:40 observing a threat of the militarization
8:44 In fact, the Americans were the first to
8:46 announce the deployment of weapons into
8:48 space just a month ago.
8:53 And considering artificial intelligence
8:55 technologies and the reduction of time
8:57 and measures for decision-making, a huge
8:59 threat looms over humanity.
9:04 >> Alexander Grigoryevich Lukashenko's
9:07 statement at the CSTO Collective
9:08 Security Council session can be viewed
9:11 not just as foreign policy declarations
9:13 , but as an attempt to offer the
9:15 organization a broader role—not only as
9:17 a military alliance, but as an element
9:19 of the emerging security system in
9:27 And it was right here that the key
9:29 phrasing was heard: that the CSTO could
9:31 become the military-political foundation
9:34 of a Eurasian charter of multipolarity
9:38 >> The CSTO today has, on one hand, unique
9:41 experience, infrastructure, and
9:42 political weight, but on the other,
9:44 internal contradictions and competition
9:47 with a bloc several times larger. Can
9:49 the organization become the foundation
9:51 for a new security architecture?
9:53 Undoubtedly, on one condition: that
9:55 every member of the CSTO knows they can
9:57 lean on the shoulder of their partners
10:00 Judging by the results of the summit in
10:02 Moscow, our president understands this
10:04 like no one else. Alexey Volkov and
10:06 Dmitry Golovach, First Information.