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Col. Macgregor: Iran bombing campaign, and 'hybrid attacks' by Russia called nonsense
Col. Macgregor: "MOST Will Be WIPED AWAY..." — Almost Non-Stop Bombing Is Coming
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Pushes the agenda · agenda: NATO prepares war against Russia
Belief the Pravda network pushes: NATO, led by Germany, is preparing for war against Russia with military exercises near its borders.
In an interview mostly about a possible US air campaign against Iran, Macgregor says Russian hybrid attacks on NATO are invented, blames Ukrainian false flags, and says Europeans are trying to provoke Russia into attacking over Lithuania.
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“The Russians are not doing the things they're being accused of. You've had all sorts of false flags coming out of Ukraine trying to masquerade as Russian threats and so forth.”
The Russians are not doing the things they're being accused of. You've had all sorts of false flags coming out of Ukraine trying to masquerade as Russian threats and so forth.
The video flatly denies documented Russian hybrid attacks, blames Ukraine for staging them, and casts the Poles and 'globalist' Europeans as provokers of a war with Russia. This is the 'West and Baltics are the aggressors, Russia is innocent' slant, and the host does not challenge it. Its remark that extended deterrence over Lithuania is 'an illusion' also touches agenda 2.
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Transcript (en, 710 lines)
0:00 The bombers?
0:02 >> Yes.
0:04 And you're talking about enormous
0:05 numbers of them, and you're talking
0:06 about
0:08 a
0:08 almost non-stop bombing over a period of
0:11 time, some period, whatever period that
0:13 turns out to be.
0:14 In other words, a very intense period at
0:16 the outset of any campaign.
0:18 Now, those are going to be supplemented
0:20 by strikes from fighters and other
0:22 areas.
0:23 Sometimes they'll come from the the
0:25 bases that you mentioned in Jordan if we
0:27 think we can protect them.
0:29 They'll come from the sea.
0:31 Some will come from further further
0:33 posts that we'll be able to use,
0:36 provided we have sufficient numbers of
0:38 air refuelers.
0:40 But I think that's what you're going to
0:41 see. It's going to be a very serious
0:43 assault, very very powerful.
0:46 And uh I don't think it's going to
0:48 produce the outcome we want by any
0:50 means.
0:52 And I think that was made clear by the
0:54 Iranian president when he said we will
0:55 not give up.
0:57 I don't know if you saw what the markets
0:58 did after he made that statement, but
1:00 they plunged.
1:02 >> Yeah.
1:02 >> And I think what you're
1:03 >> spikes as well.
1:04 >> Yeah, but what I think you're seeing
1:07 [clears throat] in the markets is this
1:10 sort of constant uh manipulation that
1:12 goes on from the White House,
1:14 telling people, well, actually we're
1:16 we're talking. We could have a deal. We
1:19 made progress. You know, he wants to
1:21 keep the fires burning, keep everybody
1:24 satisfied.
1:25 You turn on the business shows,
1:27 [clears throat] it's astonishing to me
1:29 how readily everybody believes what
1:31 comes out of Washington, what comes out
1:32 of the White House.
1:34 But then you have to look at who
1:35 controls the financial markets, and they
1:37 want this war to be successful. You
1:40 cannot be successful if people think
1:42 this war is not going to be a success,
1:44 or if they think this war is permanent,
1:47 perpetual, ongoing, unending.
1:50 So you've got different different
1:51 messages coming at a different points in
1:53 time. My my point to you is
1:56 I don't see how we avoid another
1:58 collision with Iran.
2:00 I just don't what that will do to us.
2:03 [clears throat]
2:03 And I don't know what it'll do to us
2:05 financially. I don't know what it'll do
2:06 to the global energy structure, but I
2:08 certainly can't imagine it being
2:09 anything good.
2:11 >> Mm.
2:13 And you're not
2:15 Well, I'm assuming here. Are you worried
2:16 [clears throat] about the
2:18 all the warnings from European countries
2:20 and the US about [clears throat]
2:22 Russian attacks,
2:24 hybrid attacks against NATO?
2:26 >> Well, first of all, most of this
2:27 business, in fact, all of this business
2:29 about hybrid attacks is
2:31 BS.
2:32 The Russians are not doing the things
2:34 they're being accused of. You've had all
2:35 sorts of false flags coming out of
2:37 Ukraine
2:38 trying to masquerade as Russian threats
2:40 and so forth. It's nonsense.
2:43 Back in 1998 99 when the Poles
2:47 were candidates for membership in NATO,
2:50 everybody was very happy. The Germans
2:51 worked very hard to help the Poles get
2:53 into NATO.
2:54 But behind closed doors, people all said
2:56 the same thing. Does this make a lot of
2:58 sense?
2:59 These people are incurably anti-Russian.
3:03 Do we really want to drag a nation state
3:06 into the alliance that has a long
3:08 history, hundreds of years of history
3:10 of hatred and violence and hostility to
3:12 Russia?
3:14 Everybody sort of said, well, there's
3:15 nothing we can do. And there was nothing
3:17 we could do. Well,
3:19 the Poles are now trying to repeat their
3:21 performance of 1939.
3:24 We you'll recall that [clears throat]
3:26 they were caught between the Soviets in
3:28 the East and the Germans in the West.
3:31 And they had the bright idea of flying
3:33 to London.
3:34 And in London, the British government,
3:37 which should never have done this, said,
3:39 we'll support you.
3:41 If they attack, we'll support you. We'll
3:43 come to your aid.
3:45 There was no way that the British could
3:47 have aided the Poles in a war with the
3:48 Germans or the Soviets or both as it
3:50 turned out. Impossible.
3:53 But that's what got Britain into the
3:54 war.
3:55 [clears throat] Britain Britain paid a
3:57 terrible price and came out of the war a
3:59 third-rate power.
4:01 Now,
4:02 we [clears throat] have to look at
4:03 what's happening right now, and we have
4:05 to judge the situation in a way that the
4:08 British did
4:09 back in 1939. Do we want to sacrifice
4:13 everything
4:15 in order to ensure that Israel enjoys
4:17 its hegemony across the region?
4:20 Do we want to potentially be dragged
4:21 into war with everybody there?
4:24 Now, let's move to Europe.
4:26 Let's assume that the Europeans succeed
4:29 in provoking the Russians into
4:31 attacking.
4:32 Do we want to put all of our cities and
4:35 our country at risk
4:37 in a nuclear exchange with Russia
4:39 over Lithuania?
4:43 I don't think so.
4:45 I don't see any any interest in that at
4:48 all.
4:49 This whole thing of extended deterrence
4:51 is an illusion.
4:53 It's been an illusion for years. It was
4:54 an illusion when I was a young officer
4:57 serving in Germany.
4:59 [clears throat] Everybody knew we're if
5:00 we fight, it'll be conventional. There's
5:02 not going to be a nuclear exchange here
5:04 because we're not going to risk the
5:05 annihilation of our own country
5:07 you know, to protect these places.
5:10 Now, fortunately, cooler heads
5:11 prevailed.
5:13 Moscow withdrew. We had a chance at that
5:15 point to build a new and better world.
5:17 We threw it away.
5:19 Now we're paying a price for it.
5:21 But I think the globalists that are in
5:23 charge in Europe today are going to be
5:25 swept out.
5:27 And you are going to get new
5:28 governments, and they are going to be
5:30 different from the globalists who are
5:31 there now.
5:34 And they will not go to war with Russia.
5:37 Well, the answer to your first question
5:39 is
5:40 are you correct in your interpretation?
5:42 Yes, you are.
5:44 Iran is in a war for its very survival
5:47 and existence.
5:48 We are not.
5:49 This is a war of choice.
5:51 We've done this for reasons had
5:53 everything to do with Israel and its
5:55 representation, power, influence here
5:58 inside the United States.
6:00 So
6:01 we have this thing called an
6:04 a blockade. I'm not sure it really
6:05 qualifies, strictly speaking, as a
6:07 blockade, but nevertheless, we call it
6:09 that.
6:10 And Iran sees the blockade as
6:12 representing a serious threat to itself,
6:14 its economy, its relations with others.
6:16 So Iran has to break the blockade.
6:19 Now, how are they going to break the
6:20 blockade?
6:22 They're going to break it by driving us
6:23 further and further and further away
6:25 from their coastlines.
6:27 Now, this is something else that was
6:29 always
6:30 I I don't want to say obvious, but very
6:33 probable.
6:34 I published a book in 1997
6:37 and the book was about a future war with
6:39 Iraq,
6:41 followed by Iran, but first and foremost
6:43 with Iraq.
6:45 And I showed numbers of shore-based
6:49 cruise and ballistic missiles that would
6:51 be terminally guided in some cases. In
6:53 some cases, they would be
6:55 directed, if not by satellites and
6:57 aerostats. In other words, to reach out
7:01 a thousand miles and attack targets. And
7:04 at the time in the scenario that I
7:05 depicted in 1997 in the book Breaking
7:08 the Phalanx,
7:10 the the Iranians and the Iraqis were
7:12 interested in sinking a carrier.
7:15 But they mistook on their
7:17 you know, whatever their ISR was, a
7:19 marine amphibious ship for a carrier,
7:21 and they sank the marine amphibious
7:22 ship.
7:23 Well, you can imagine overnight I became
7:25 public enemy number one inside of
7:27 Washington
7:28 because I was saying that the the Navy's
7:30 carrier force and the Marine Corps's
7:32 amphibious force were both very much in
7:35 danger of becoming an anachronistic and
7:37 effectively in a
7:39 incapable of influencing anything
7:41 ashore.
7:42 That's
7:44 that book came out in what, March of
7:45 1997. This is now 2026.
7:50 Good Lord. I mean, this is this is
7:52 inevitable stuff.
7:54 You know, all of the instrumentalities
7:56 that were developed for the use of the
7:58 US armed forces against its opponents in
8:00 World War II
8:02 have reached their termination date,
8:05 their sell-by dates.
8:08 In other words, the old
8:08 instrumentalities are going to vanish
8:10 now, and new instrumentalities are going
8:12 to come into existence.
8:14 But our instrumentalities are different
8:16 from, say, the Russians or the Germans
8:18 or the Chinese or the Iranians because
8:21 we are primarily a maritime aerospace
8:25 power.
8:26 Everything we have is designed to reach
8:28 out and project
8:30 thousands of miles somewhere else.
8:33 This is a result of the fact that we're
8:34 a very large island
8:36 with no serious opponent ashore. In
8:39 other words, we're not expecting any
8:40 armies to come down out of Canada or
8:43 armies to come up from Latin America. So
8:45 what do we do? We we focus on the things
8:47 that we can do beyond the Western
8:49 hemisphere, and that's what we've been
8:50 doing.
8:51 Those days are coming to an end.
8:54 And that's why the future for the United
8:56 States is not interference in other
8:58 people's affairs, meddling inside other
9:00 people's societies, attacking people
9:03 who've never attacked us. You know, I I
9:06 know everybody says, oh, well, the evil
9:07 Iranians have been at war with us for 47
9:10 years. It's all nonsense. Okay, that's
9:12 just crap.
9:13 No one bothers to point out the
9:14 Iran-Iraq war,
9:16 which cost the Iranians anywhere from
9:18 500 to 750,000 casualties, maybe more.
9:21 We just don't know. And all of the
9:24 supplies and all of the equipment and
9:25 all of the intelligence and all of the
9:28 advice that was supplied to Saddam
9:29 Hussein to make that war happen came
9:32 from us.
9:36 It's over. This this this is a chapter
9:39 in humanity in human history that is
9:41 ending.
9:42 We can't do this anymore.
9:44 So all we're doing right now with this
9:46 blockade
9:47 is we're prolonging the agony. We're
9:49 bleeding cash. It's costing us a lot of
9:51 money.
9:52 And I think we're doing enormous damage
9:54 to our armed forces.
9:56 But there's no willingness to say, wait
9:58 a minute,
9:59 this has gone as far as it can go.
10:01 You know, we just had these reports
10:03 leaked from the Department of Defense,
10:04 or they call it the Department of War
10:06 again.
10:07 And I guess Secretary Hagel Seth is now
10:09 running witch to find out who leaked
10:12 what.
10:13 But the point is what are they telling
10:15 us? They're not telling us anything that
10:16 you and I and others that you've talked
10:18 to like Larry Johnson or any number of
10:20 people have said repeatedly, we don't
10:23 have the munitions.
10:25 We we don't have the production base to
10:27 rapidly replace all these interceptors,
10:30 all these anti-missile missiles, let
10:32 alone the strike weapons.
10:34 So we're really pushing up against an
10:36 enormous logistical barrier that we
10:39 cannot easily overcome. And people are
10:41 saying, you know, we really need to get
10:43 out.
10:44 But nobody wants to admit what I just
10:46 explained to you, that our ability to
10:47 maintain these bases on the Eurasian
10:50 periphery because look where our bases
10:52 are located.
10:53 Start all the way up at Northern Japan,
10:56 work your way all the way around China,
10:58 down into the Philippines, through
11:00 Southeast Asia, jump over the Indian
11:02 Ocean.
11:04 Fortunately, the Indians don't have to
11:05 put up with us. And then you go over to
11:08 the Persian Gulf and all the way up to
11:10 the Middle East and up to your all the
11:12 way to the top of Norway.
11:14 Okay, that that's the Eurasian
11:15 periphery.
11:17 And our strategy has always been we need
11:20 to cling to this, to hold on to this in
11:23 case we have to come back and re-fight
11:25 World War II.
11:27 Well, we're not going to re-fight World
11:29 War II. That's already been
11:30 demonstrated.
11:31 We're in a new era now, new kinds of
11:33 warfare, new kinds of technologies. We
11:36 need a new strategy and that strategy is
11:38 staring us in the face and that's called
11:40 hemispheric defense.
11:43 >> In other words, defend ourselves.
11:45 And unless somebody attacks us directly,
11:47 we don't attack them.
11:51 But that's something that Washington
11:52 doesn't like.
11:55 They don't want to give it up.
11:55 >> that also lead doesn't that also lead to
11:57 the end of the petrodollar that led to
11:59 the
12:00 the quality of life that the Americans
12:02 enjoyed for so many decades?
12:03 >> Absolutely. The petrol the petrol dollar
12:06 is on the skids. I don't think there's
12:07 any question about that.
12:09 And we're going to have to change our
12:11 economy. We're going to the way we think
12:13 about economic development.
12:15 I mean, when Donald Trump came to power
12:17 to begin with, he started talking about
12:18 repatriating industry.
12:21 Well, some of that has to happen, but we
12:23 need new industries. In other words,
12:26 if you look at what do we do best? What
12:28 do Americans do best?
12:30 Agriculture. We've ignored agriculture.
12:33 In fact, we're punishing our own
12:34 agrarian sector right now.
12:37 Our farmers are suffering suffering
12:38 terribly.
12:40 It's ridiculous.
12:41 Our agricultural sector should lead the
12:43 world. The Midwest is a breadbasket on
12:46 the scale of Ukraine, okay? So that's
12:49 number one. Number two, energy.
12:51 We have enormous energy reserves. We
12:54 should be developing them in an
12:56 intelligent fashion. How many new
12:57 refineries have we built within the last
12:59 25 30 years?
13:03 Excuse me.
13:04 Zero.
13:06 Okay? No new refineries. What's
13:07 happening to our strategic petroleum
13:09 reserve?
13:10 People are reporting that it's it's it's
13:13 drying up.
13:14 President Trump
13:15 would like to extricate himself from
13:17 this no winning situation.
13:20 Uh he's lost the military conflict.
13:22 There is no way out of this easy way out
13:25 for him.
13:27 Uh he's opened his big mouth and made a
13:28 lot of stupid statements, statements
13:31 that put him in a bad position,
13:33 but they're positions from which he
13:35 cannot easily retreat.
13:38 The Iranians have no reason to trust us.
13:41 None.
13:42 I mean, let let's be frank.
13:43 We tried to kill their delegation. The
13:46 Israelis have done this. We've done
13:47 this.
13:49 Uh why would they trust anything we say
13:50 or do?
13:52 I I'm just I just find it hard to
13:54 believe that the Iranians would do
13:56 anything
13:58 unless we demonstrated conclusively that
14:00 we were serious. The only way to do that
14:02 is for us to lift the blockade
14:04 immediately,
14:05 release all those funds, and withdraw
14:07 the naval forces, not just lift the
14:09 blockade and sail 100 miles away. Get
14:14 That's tough for President Trump to do
14:16 without admitting defeat.
14:18 It's also something that I don't think
14:20 is the Israeli lobby and its agents in
14:23 Washington will accept.
14:25 The Israelis do not under any
14:27 circumstances want an end to this war
14:30 unless it ends in the destruction of
14:32 Iran.
14:34 So I guess the bottom line is that I
14:36 would be very hopeful
14:38 but not very optimistic. So I don't
14:41 think much will come of this and I think
14:42 we will resume fighting.
14:46 >> What do you make of what we're seeing in
14:48 Saudi as well? The imminent strikes that
14:51 seemed to seem to be imminent over the
14:54 weekend. I think the bombs were being
14:55 loaded on the planes and then they were
14:56 canceled by Trump as American planes.
14:59 The Lancer took off
15:00 to strike the Houthis.
15:03 The Iranians were on high alert.
15:07 Is the US abandoning Saudi? Are they
15:09 delaying it after the midterms? Would
15:10 that really make a difference cuz the
15:12 Houthis are still bombing Saudis and the
15:14 Saudis are bombing the Houthis. But
15:15 today
15:16 the Houthis went as deep as
15:19 Tabuk, which is up near Jordan, 2,000 km
15:21 in
15:22 and there was an important air base
15:24 there. So the Houthis struck Tabuk for
15:26 the first time ever or for the first
15:28 time in this war.
15:30 So I would love to get your thoughts on
15:31 the Houthi-Saudi war.
15:35 >> Al-Ansar made an agreement with us.
15:38 I don't know the contents of the
15:39 agreement, but there is an agreement in
15:41 place
15:42 and we halted operations against them.
15:45 As far as I can tell, they've held to
15:46 their end of the bargain.
15:49 If we attack them now, that means that
15:52 once again we've demonstrated we can't
15:54 be trusted and no bargain that you make
15:56 with the United States will be honored.
15:58 So I'm sure that's on on President
16:00 Trump's mind. Secondly, I don't know
16:02 what kind of munitions they'll use, what
16:04 kind of PGMs, precision guided
16:06 munitions.
16:08 I have no idea where we stand on that.
16:11 My assumption is
16:12 there's resistance in inside the senior
16:15 military leadership, probably in the
16:17 Pentagon, to doing this.
16:20 I think their argument will be, we have
16:21 to keep our eyes on the trained on the
16:24 real goal in this war.
16:26 We don't want to be diverted into a
16:28 fight with
16:29 Ansarallah. We want to stay focused on
16:31 the fight with Iran.
16:33 Remember that Ansarallah, if they
16:35 fundamentally block off
16:38 the Red Sea and they block off the with
16:40 the Persian Gulf and the current
16:42 condition it's in, and it's it's
16:44 effectively closed, contrary to what
16:46 CENTCOM says,
16:48 you're looking at 35% of the global oil
16:52 reserve is is out of out of action. It's
16:55 out of out of reach.
16:57 So under those circumstances,
17:00 I think President Trump and his advisor
17:03 are probably seriously considering what
17:05 to do and they may decide not to do
17:06 anything right now. They may be looking
17:08 for others
17:09 to help Saudi Arabia. And there's
17:11 another problem that the Saudis have and
17:13 I'm sure you're aware of this.
17:15 Uh Prince Mohammed bin Salman is
17:18 trying to
17:19 arrange for loans to the Saudis
17:22 to bridge their situation financially
17:25 right now into the future.
17:27 This is not a good sign for Saudi
17:29 Arabia, which
17:30 one would think is one of the richest
17:32 countries in the world.
17:34 But they've squandered an awful lot of
17:36 money and resources on big projects,
17:39 some of which have worked, many of which
17:40 have not.
17:42 And they're not prepared for a long war
17:44 of any kind. And they certainly don't
17:46 have the military power. I mean, they
17:48 may it on paper, but in in real terms,
17:51 there's not much there.
17:53 So I I wonder if Saudi Arabia is going
17:55 to survive at all. Remember, I've said
17:56 from the beginning that I thought all of
17:58 these statelets on the Arabian Peninsula
18:01 would all be ultimately swept away
18:04 in the tide of time as a result of this
18:07 I include that in Jordan in that.
18:09 And I as I've said before, I don't see
18:11 that
18:12 there is an absolute guarantee that
18:13 Israel will survive this either. It's
18:16 got serious problems.
18:17 The whole the whole status quo in the
18:20 region
18:21 right now is crumbling.
18:23 What's going to take it place is
18:24 anybody's guess.
18:25 But that's where that brings me back to
18:27 your earlier comment about the Turks.
18:31 You know, I people say, well, you know,
18:32 the Turkish economy is very fragile. The
18:34 Turkish interest rates are too high.
18:36 Turkish inflation, Turkish this, Turkish
18:38 that. But at the end of the day,
18:41 the Turks can fight and they have a very
18:43 large military and that nation can be
18:45 mobilized and hurled into action. I
18:47 think the Israelis know that.
18:51 I don't know what's going to happen
18:52 next, but I don't think you're going to
18:54 get an agreement based on
18:56 meetings on the sidelines with Kushner
18:59 or anybody else from the US government
19:01 right now with Iran. I just don't.
19:04 >> When you talk about the Gulf and Jordan
19:07 being swept away,
19:10 how would that look and you you
19:11 mentioned Israel as well, but how would
19:13 that look like for the Gulf?
19:16 >> I don't know. I think that to some
19:17 extent you're going to have the Iranians
19:19 involved in dictating or shaping the
19:23 outcome.
19:24 I'm sure that some and Qatar is is
19:26 probably one of them will turn to their
19:28 Turkish friends.
19:30 It may be that that is also the case
19:32 with some of the Sunni Arab leaders
19:33 there. They will turn to the Turks.
19:36 They're obviously all interested in the
19:38 Chinese support because the Chinese are
19:41 the ones with the capital to come back
19:42 in and rebuild things.
19:45 So it depends on a number of different
19:47 dynamics. If you're an Iranian and you
19:49 look across the Gulf, what do you want
19:50 from them? Well, you remember exactly
19:52 what I just described.
19:53 These Gulf statelets were very much in
19:55 bed with Saudi Arabia and the United
19:57 States in its war against Iran.
19:59 They have also cooperated and conspired
20:02 with Israel against Iran. So what do
20:05 they want? Well, they don't want anybody
20:07 on the other side of the Gulf conspiring
20:08 with an enemy.
20:10 They don't want any foreign bases there.
20:14 think about it. What does it mean? It
20:15 means they're going to have a big say in
20:17 who ultimately governs over there.
20:19 And again, if they turn to the Turks as
20:21 the case is with Cutter and others.
20:24 Uh, the Turks will have to decide what
20:26 they do or do not do. The Turks are
20:28 already very concerned about what's
20:30 happening in Syria, as you know.
20:32 The situation there is extremely tense.
20:34 The Israelis have brought brought that
20:36 on themselves.
20:39 If I lived in the middle of the Middle
20:41 East right now, I'd move.
20:44 Find a new
20:45 >> who that's for. I wonder who that's for.
20:48 We saw the munitions depot in Syria
20:51 blowing up again two, three days ago.
20:52 You saw that one?
20:56 Come on, man.
20:56 >> I'm saying. This thing is
20:58 is just is just getting started. This is
21:00 not over.
21:02 >> I want to start right there with Donald
21:03 Trump's recent address to the United
21:05 Nations. You know, he stood in New York
21:06 City and said that he has a very
21:09 difficult decision to make. Does he make
21:10 a deal with Iran that turns them into
21:12 one of the most basically his message to
21:14 the world there? I'd like to get your
21:16 initial thoughts to that and, you know,
21:18 what you think of this decision that
21:19 Donald Trump says he has to make.
21:23 >> Well, uh,
21:24 listening to him was entertaining to say
21:27 the least.
21:28 Uh, I I think he's developed something
21:30 of a god complex. Uh, he seems to have
21:33 determined that he's going to
21:35 single-handedly return the United States
21:38 to 1991 and the unipolar moment.
21:42 Effectively, he's set himself up as a
21:44 judge and jury of the world.
21:47 And Iran is, uh, for reasons of
21:49 connectivity to Israel turned out to be
21:52 public enemy number one as far as he's
21:54 concerned and seems willing to do
21:56 anything to destroy it.
21:58 But he's also allowing them to
22:00 capitulate
22:02 and publicly humiliate themselves by
22:06 agreeing to do whatever it is that
22:07 Israel wants. I mean, that's literally
22:09 what it comes down to.
22:11 >> Right.
22:11 >> Uh, it's psychotic.
22:14 It makes no sense.
22:15 >> Yeah. Um, let's talk about it from a
22:18 military perspective, you know, Colonel.
22:19 Is this even possible? I mean, we we
22:21 just heard Donald Trump say that he's
22:23 going to annihilate Iran. He's going to
22:24 send in this. I mean, I've I've been
22:26 carry out a very large uh you know
22:28 movement here. I mean, is is there still
22:30 a potential of a ground invasion? I
22:31 mean, what is the United States military
22:33 really looking at uh from Iran right
22:35 now?
22:36 >> Well, to annihilate Iran would require
22:41 uh the use of nuclear weapons. Let's be
22:43 frank. Annihilation, look it up, it
22:45 means total destruction, nothing left.
22:49 It's the last word I would utilize. It's
22:51 a kind of
22:52 thinking that was familiar to Stalin or
22:55 Hitler.
22:56 It is certainly not the thinking that
22:58 one would associate with the president
23:00 of the United States.
23:02 We should be interested obviously in
23:04 avoiding war whenever possible and if
23:06 there is a conflict, finding a way to
23:07 settle it on the best possible terms
23:09 that we can get.
23:11 But those terms always have to take into
23:13 consideration the opponent and his
23:15 thinks thinking and his interests.
23:18 He's essentially excluded those from the
23:20 discussion.
23:22 Now, militarily, what can we do? Can we
23:24 destroy, fundamentally annihilate Iran
23:27 with purely conventional military power?
23:29 Annihilate, no. Significantly destroy,
23:32 yes.
23:34 So that brings me back to nuclear
23:35 weapons and that's the problem.
23:38 Uh I'm someone that thinks that a
23:39 nuclear weapon should be employed only
23:42 in the most desperate of circumstances
23:44 after
23:45 we Americans ourselves have been
23:47 attacked by someone else who has nuclear
23:50 weapons.
23:51 Otherwise, as far as I'm concerned, a
23:52 nuclear weapon is off the table.
23:55 He apparently is thinking in those
23:57 terms, I'm told, because there are
23:58 people in the Department of Defense,
24:01 excuse me, Department of
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