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Col. Macgregor: Section 219 'tantamount to treason' and Trump's Israel aid cut
Col. Macgregor: Section 219 Is "Tantamount to Treason" | Is Trump's Israel Aid Cut Real?
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Belief the Pravda network pushes: Russia and the United States should negotiate Ukraine's future without Europe, while Ukraine and the West block peace and threaten Russia.
Macgregor and the host mostly discuss US-Israel military ties and Trump's aid pledge, then turn to the planned US-Russia-Ukraine talks, where Macgregor calls them meaningless and cites the Minsk Accords as a past 'facade'.
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“go all the way back to the Minsk Accords, and that happened while Trump was in uh his first term”
go all the way back to the Minsk Accords, and that happened while Trump was in uh his first term
Nearly all of the transcript is about Israel and is off-topic for this agenda; the Ukraine segment starts to echo a Kremlin talking point (Minsk as a Western ruse) but cuts off before showing whether it blames Ukraine or the West for blocking peace, so a verdict of 'pushes' is not supported.
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Transcript (en, 756 lines)
0:00 What impact is this going to have on the
0:02 ongoing relationship between United
0:04 States and Israel? Still a substantial
0:06 number of the leadership in the
0:08 Democratic Party are still very much
0:09 getting money from AIPAC and from other
0:12 Israeli related places.
0:13 >> I think for those of us who have worked
0:15 hard on that alliance, we understand the
0:17 degree to which it contributes to the
0:19 safety of the American people. At the
0:21 Heritage Foundation, we support phasing
0:23 out the security assistance to Israel,
0:25 making that more joint investments in
0:27 our mutual security.
0:29 >> Yesterday, President Trump again went
0:31 out and said, "Yeah, hey, we're going to
0:32 stop this money to the Israel. We're
0:34 going to stop this three four billion
0:35 dollars we've been giving them every
0:36 year because we're a more mature
0:38 relationship." Now, what she was
0:40 referring to there was this section 219
0:43 in the house, meshing of the military.
0:45 Is that better or worse for the American
0:47 people than the three to four billion we
0:49 have been giving them?
0:50 >> Well, first of all, I don't think we've
0:52 seen the end of the billions of dollars
0:54 that are formally transferred by the
0:56 United States government to Israel.
0:59 You know, that's There's just no
1:00 evidence that that's going to happen.
1:02 This is something else. Trump can say
1:03 whatever he wants.
1:05 He has no control over the CIA. We've
1:07 demonstrated that pretty conclusively.
1:09 If he thinks he's just going to defund
1:11 Israel because right now it is
1:13 politically advantageous for him to
1:15 distance himself, at least publicly,
1:17 from the Israeli problem,
1:19 uh that's fine. It's meaningless. So, I
1:22 you know, it's just it's just empty
1:24 rhetoric. I wouldn't pay any attention
1:26 to it. I think what she says, though,
1:28 is really very important. First of all,
1:30 if you want to understand the Heritage
1:31 Foundation, the people that are over
1:32 there and why they take the positions
1:34 they do, look at who contributes money
1:36 to the Heritage Foundation. The people
1:39 that contribute money are the ones
1:41 shaping policy.
1:42 Now, there's an old expression, he who
1:45 has the gold rules the world.
1:47 That's Some people say, "Well, that's an
1:49 oversimplification." Not really. There's
1:51 a lot more truth to that than people
1:53 realize.
1:54 And if you've got enough money and you
1:55 pour enough of it in, then you you
1:57 dictate who ultimately is employed at
1:59 your respective foundation.
2:02 Whether it's Brookings or the Heritage
2:04 Foundation or the American Enterprise
2:06 Institute or anywhere else
2:08 or Cato. You know, you
2:10 have to understand you're going to take
2:12 these positions. Well, why are we taking
2:14 those positions? Well, look at the
2:15 donors.
2:17 So, that's the first thing. It's very
2:18 dishonest. All these people pretend as
2:20 though they're some sort of objective
2:23 analyst and they're not.
2:25 They're spouting the narrative. They're
2:27 repeating the nonsense because that's
2:29 what the money demands. It's just
2:31 depressing, but that's the way it is.
2:32 Secondly,
2:34 I worked as a consultant for some time
2:36 after I did leave the army independently
2:39 for various things and one of the things
2:41 that I discovered pretty quickly inside
2:43 the defense industries were large
2:44 numbers of people particularly in the
2:47 area of missile technology who were very
2:49 unhappy with the IP that they were
2:51 compelled to turn over to the Israelis.
2:53 And they would complain bitterly how the
2:55 Israelis took that IP, modified it, and
2:58 yes, under the table sold it to the
3:00 Chinese or the Russians or somebody else
3:02 given enough money.
3:04 There's a lot of bad blood there, a lot
3:06 of bitterness inside the US armed
3:09 forces. Obviously, anybody that reaches
3:11 senior levels is going to be a permanent
3:14 unquestioning friend of Israel.
3:17 But once you go down below the highest
3:19 levels, you have to deal with the people
3:20 on the ground that have to interact with
3:22 them. It's not a pleasant experience.
3:25 They don't like it and they don't like
3:26 what she discussed at all.
3:28 And that provision in the legislature is
3:30 tantamount to treason.
3:33 We have no obligation as Americans to
3:35 turn anything of any importance and any
3:37 significance over to anybody that has
3:39 any military potential. Period.
3:42 Now, we have been very careful in the
3:44 past. I mean, hell, during World War II,
3:47 we were very careful with the British.
3:48 Unfortunately, FDR was less so with the
3:51 Soviets.
3:52 But after the war, we cleaned that mess
3:54 up. Truman changed things. Eisenhower
3:57 changed things. Kennedy kept it going.
3:59 We did not share things and we were very
4:01 well aware of what the Israelis wanted
4:03 to do. They always wanted a nuclear
4:05 weapon.
4:07 Kennedy obstructed it. Eisenhower was
4:09 pulled by the idea.
4:11 Uh
4:12 unfortunately LBJ let it happen.
4:15 And we've been living with it ever
4:16 since.
4:17 >> Mhm.
4:17 >> Uh
4:18 the reason for Israel that got everyone
4:21 on board just like me is very simple.
4:25 One of the reasons for the Holocaust was
4:27 that the Jews in Europe did not have
4:29 their own country.
4:31 And I believed that. A lot of people
4:33 believed it. Now, that's not the only
4:35 reason for the Holocaust, but
4:37 that's a critical point. And so
4:39 Americans like me and I suspect like you
4:42 and others supported
4:43 the state of Israel for that reason.
4:46 But what we're dealing with now is not
4:49 uh a friendly predisposition to Israel,
4:52 not a willingness to do business on an
4:55 equitable and mutually beneficial basis.
4:58 We're talking about being becoming a
5:00 vassal of the greater state of Israel.
5:03 And that's just effectively what Donald
5:04 Trump has turned us into. Our armed
5:06 forces are just instrumentalities at the
5:08 disposal of the Israeli leadership and
5:11 international Jewish finance. This must
5:14 stop.
5:15 The vote on Tuesday was a clear and
5:18 unambiguous vote against that.
5:20 Woe be to the people in Washington who
5:22 ignore it. If they do, it'll come back
5:25 to haunt them. And I suspect
5:27 they'll ignore more of it than we
5:28 appreciate at least at first.
5:31 >> [snorts]
5:31 >> Yeah, at least at first we'll have to
5:33 see. Um I I want to shift over here in
5:35 just a second to uh to the self
5:37 happening there the Russia-Ukraine war
5:39 and get your view on that. But before we
5:40 do, I want one last topic here. Uh
5:43 nothing really surprising here, but I
5:45 don't know, maybe it will be surprising
5:46 by some because this is uh the uh
5:49 Israeli UN ambassador Danny Danon um
5:52 making this very interesting claim here
5:54 that it turns out that I guess what
5:56 we've heard all along that Benjamin
5:58 Netanyahu dragged President Trump into
6:00 the war that they're using us as an
6:02 extension of the IDF. Apparently none of
6:04 that is true according to Danny Danon.
6:06 As a matter of fact, we're the ones who
6:08 started the war.
6:09 >> I think it's unfortunate and we thought
6:11 coming from different directions that
6:13 they made the linkage between the the
6:15 rising prices, mainly the oil prices, to
6:17 the situation here in Israel. So, I I
6:20 think it's unfortunate. We know that the
6:21 decision to attack Iran or the decision
6:23 of the United States, it wasn't our
6:25 decision. We supported the effort of the
6:26 US. We think it was the right decision.
6:29 And I think we should hear the
6:30 Ayatollahs today in Tehran what they're
6:32 saying about the United States. So, it's
6:34 very easy always to blame Israel for
6:35 everything, but that's is not the case.
6:38 >> Yeah, it was
6:39 no one less than Marco Rubio is the one
6:42 that said it was actually Israel that
6:44 was attacking. We just had to get drug
6:45 along into it. What do you say?
6:49 >> Well, years ago, Leon Trotsky, who
6:51 incidentally is someone that is revered
6:53 in in many sections of the Jewish
6:55 communities in New York City and
6:57 elsewhere,
6:58 Leon Trotsky, of course, the Bolshevik,
7:01 one of the mass murderers that founded
7:03 the Soviet Union,
7:04 was approached by a subordinate. This is
7:07 about 1921-22.
7:10 And the subordinate came up to him and
7:11 said, "Commissar,
7:13 com- comrade,
7:14 what we're saying in this this leaflet,
7:16 it's not true.
7:18 He said, "We're not telling the truth."
7:21 And Trotsky smiled at him and he said,
7:23 "Well, you know, comrade,
7:25 the paper will put up with anything you
7:27 put on it."
7:30 >> I think you need to keep that little
7:32 anecdote in mind when you listen to the
7:33 Israelis.
7:35 It's as simple as that. And a lot of
7:36 other people.
7:37 And Americans need to be smart and and
7:40 recognize just how frequently and often
7:42 they're lied to by [clears throat] a
7:43 whole range of people, not just the
7:45 Israelis. But right now, clearly,
7:47 everything that man said at the UN is
7:49 nonsense.
7:51 >> Yeah, and it's
7:53 as you already mentioned several times
7:54 even in this show, nearly everybody I
7:56 put up here somehow or way or the other
7:59 benefits financially from that
8:01 relationship. So,
8:03 uh
8:03 keep that in mind, too. We'll see
8:04 though, because if the American public
8:06 has turned sharply against it and it's
8:08 not just because of this war here, it's
8:10 also because of the stuff that's going
8:12 on in the gone in the Gaza since 2023,
8:14 in Lebanon, in the West Bank with these
8:16 pogroms that are going on now that
8:18 people see all the time. It's a lot of
8:19 stuff building up. I don't I don't think
8:21 that people are going to go back to us.
8:23 So, if these the Democrats come in and
8:24 try and soft pedal this and just trying
8:27 to change it to a certain other
8:28 direction, I'm not sure that's going to
8:30 work, but I don't know.
8:30 >> Well, remember I don't know if you can
8:32 find the clip, but there was a clip this
8:34 is before things really got off the
8:35 ground in the war.
8:37 This is before 28 February as I
8:39 recollect and I think it was Levin.
8:41 Uh wasn't on his program necessarily,
8:43 but he was giving a speech.
8:45 And in the speech he said, you know, we
8:48 don't have to put up with these people
8:49 that disagree with us. We don't have to
8:51 listen to them. We have enough money. We
8:54 control enough power in this country. We
8:56 can shut them down.
8:58 And anybody who speaks out against us is
9:01 nothing more than another Nazi fascist
9:04 trying to destroy us. We have every
9:07 right to do that.
9:08 Think you ought to dig that one up.
9:10 Uh he said those kinds of things in the
9:13 White House in other forums. This is
9:15 what you're dealing with and by the way,
9:17 Levin was telling the truth.
9:19 Uh they have a lot of money.
9:22 And a lot of money can be used to
9:23 destroy people that don't want to
9:25 support their position.
9:29 You know.
9:30 And the sad part is that there are lots
9:31 of people like me out there
9:33 who would under normal circumstances
9:36 unquestionably
9:38 voice support for Israel's security.
9:41 Not for greater Israel. Not for mass
9:45 murder. Not for mass extermination of
9:48 your enemies or who
9:49 designate. I mean, that's not it.
9:52 Uh but that's not enough. Uh this is a
9:54 group of people that demand
9:56 unconditional obedience.
9:58 And woe be to him who doesn't go along
10:00 with it.
10:01 And I think that's what Donald Trump is
10:04 dealing with.
10:06 >> And you know, the irony is in the good
10:07 sort of way. We may be entering into a
10:10 new phase where woe be to him that does
10:13 do those kinds of things because
10:15 the uh voting public may finally use
10:17 their power and unseat them. We hope it
10:19 continues to work on that way. I want to
10:21 shift gears here into Europe because
10:25 coming up next week, I believe on the
10:26 10th, so 5 days from now, there's
10:28 supposed to be three-way talks for the
10:30 first time in a long time anyway with
10:33 the United States, Russia, and Ukraine.
10:36 I believe it's in Abu Dhabi is where
10:37 they're going to be meeting. And uh the
10:39 hope is that at this technical level,
10:41 they can start working on some issues to
10:43 at least get people in the same room
10:44 together and seeing is there any
10:46 foundation from which we can have an
10:49 agreement that everybody can live with.
10:50 No one will like it, but maybe that we
10:53 can find something they can live with.
10:54 Uh what do you think? Is there Is there
10:56 any hope at all? Is this the beginning
10:58 of something good or is it just a an
11:00 exercise in futility?
11:02 >> Until someone can show me some evidence
11:05 for why the Russians or the Chinese or
11:08 the Iranians or anybody else out there
11:11 should take anything that we say
11:12 seriously,
11:14 that they have suddenly decided that we
11:16 are honorable
11:18 and we are credible,
11:19 uh I'd say it's meaningless. I wouldn't
11:21 pay too much attention to it.
11:23 I think the Russians in particular will
11:25 always be uh polite, but how many times
11:28 do you have to be burned? I mean, go all
11:30 the way back to the Minsk Accords, and
11:31 that happened while
11:33 Trump was in uh his first term. And you
11:36 now know
11:38 our friend Angela Merkel and others and
11:40 Macron have all admitted, well, that was
11:42 just nonsense. That was essentially a
11:44 facade
11:45 designed to buy Ukrainians more time to
11:48 build up their military power to attack
11:49 Russia.
11:51 Okay, well, then why would the Russians
11:53 pay any attention to this?
11:55 Or the Iranians or anybody else.
11:59 >> And so what what do you think is the is
12:01 the play of the Russians? Why Why would
12:02 they be willing to do this and to to be
12:05 a participant in this if there's no
12:07 utility there's no utility in it?
12:09 >> The Russians see value in keeping open
12:12 the the lines of communication.
12:15 And they want to be in a position where
12:17 they are never accused of having refused
12:20 to talk.
12:21 They're open to talk. They'll listen.
12:24 Now, what comes out of it, they expect
12:26 nothing because that's been their
12:27 experience thus far.
12:29 But they will always show up. They'll be
12:31 polite. They will listen.
12:33 And if we're willing to listen, which is
12:36 rarely the case, they'll tell you what
12:38 they can and cannot do.
12:40 But we normally don't pay much attention
12:42 to that. We have this view that if we
12:44 show up, they should be grateful and
12:45 sign up for whatever we want.
12:48 Doesn't work that way.
12:50 >> And and let's take a look and see how it
12:52 does work. What what is actually working
12:53 on the ground because it it appears that
12:55 Russia has uh moved down uh along a path
12:58 and and we've heard uh
13:00 John Mearsheimer, who by the way will be
13:02 on the show later this afternoon. Um he
13:04 says he he doesn't think there's any
13:06 prospect for diplomatic uh outcome at
13:09 all. He said that he's just convinced
13:10 this will eventually definitely work its
13:12 way out on the battlefield. He said
13:14 that's just going to be the way it's
13:15 going to play out. But I I I wonder your
13:17 view from a military perspective, does
13:20 Russia have the capacity to win on the
13:22 battlefield and how might that look
13:24 going forward?
13:26 >> Well, yes. I mean, there's no question
13:28 about that. And you can look at the
13:30 enormous amount of firepower that has
13:31 been assembled and thrown at the
13:33 Ukrainians over the last several weeks.
13:35 Ukraine is is basically in ruins. And
13:39 the population there is miserable and
13:41 furious and angry with the government in
13:44 Kiev.
13:45 Our friend Zelenskyy and his friend and
13:47 his buddies all survived because they
13:49 have MI6 and CIA surrounding them and
13:51 supporting them.
13:53 They have thousands of mercenaries have
13:54 been brought in the country to try and
13:56 help compensate for the problems with
13:58 manpower.
13:59 But this is a dying regime. There's no
14:01 question about it.
14:02 The issue for the Russians is the one
14:04 that we discussed a few weeks ago.
14:08 When this ends, when this war is over,
14:10 certain things will have to be
14:11 acknowledged. Number one, Odessa will
14:13 belong to Moscow.
14:15 There's no question about that. They're
14:17 not going to allow the port of Odessa to
14:19 go back into Ukrainian hands and become
14:22 a permanent uh
14:24 sore in the side of Russia, bringing in
14:27 drugs, arms,
14:29 uh illegal trafficking of women and
14:30 children, God knows what else, all to
14:33 fuel this state that is permanently
14:35 hostile to Russia.
14:36 So, they're going to cross the uh
14:39 Dnieper at some point and they'll have
14:40 to and take Odessa from the land.
14:43 Odessa's cut off now. That's not going
14:45 to change.
14:46 And then I think they'll extend that
14:48 boundary all the way to Moldova and
14:49 Romania.
14:50 And why wouldn't they? I mean, this is
14:52 how you reduce the rump state to a rump
14:55 state.
14:56 Now, what do you do with Kiev? Well, as
14:58 long as MI6 and uh CIA receive the funds
15:02 and have the funds to sustain the
15:03 operation,
15:05 I think they'll tolerate it and then at
15:07 some point they'll make the decision to
15:09 cross up near Kiev and take that place.
15:13 I you know, I I don't see any
15:15 alternatives to this because you're not
15:16 going to end this war any other way.
15:19 And I think they know that the attitude
15:22 and the mindset in Western Ukraine,
15:23 which is hostile to them, has changed
15:26 quite a bit. It's not a question of no
15:28 longer hating Russians as much as it is
15:30 a recognition that they don't end this
15:32 war, they're all going to starve or
15:34 freeze to death if not be killed.
15:36 So, I think it's come to that point
15:38 inside Ukraine.
15:40 There is enormous pressure. I'm sure you
15:42 I think you had uh
15:44 brother Kaprielyan.
15:46 Uh did you not order
15:47 >> Yeah. Yeah, Stanislav Kaprielyan. Yeah.
15:48 >> Yeah, and Stanislav told you what's
15:51 happening on the ground and he's right.
15:53 Uh the Russians have reached a point now
15:55 they have the forces, they have the
15:57 manpower, they can do what they need to
15:59 do. No one is talking about what is up
16:01 in Belarus, where there's plenty of
16:03 force uh and power up there as well.
16:06 And in the meantime, Europe is
16:07 approaching entropy.
16:09 Does anybody really think the French or
16:11 the British are going to send anybody to
16:12 fight Western Ukraine? Forget it. It's
16:14 it's a joke. These these governments are
16:17 on their last legs. Mats, everybody
16:19 wants to get rid of Mats. We're working
16:22 tirelessly, that is our intelligence
16:24 agencies with the current German
16:26 government to keep the alternative for
16:28 Germany out of power.
16:30 We are working everywhere inside of
16:32 Europe to help suppress nationalists in
16:35 favor of the globalists who are in
16:37 power.
16:38 And it's very funny that that's never
16:40 mentioned publicly. Instead, you have
16:42 these
16:43 globalists in Berlin, Paris, and London
16:45 say, "Oh, those evil Russians, they're
16:47 on the ground and they're influencing
16:49 things." Listen, the Russians do many
16:51 things well, but as far as influencing
16:53 things on the ground in Poland and
16:55 Germany, forget it.
16:57 They're I'm sorry, they're just not very
16:59 competent at that. So,
17:01 >> [clears throat]
17:02 >> you know, to answer your question is,
17:03 yeah, they can do it all. There's no
17:05 question about it. In fact, the the
17:07 Russian electorate wants to do it. They
17:09 want this to end. And the pressure on
17:12 President Putin, I think, is just
17:14 enormous.
17:15 At some point, he's going to relent, I
17:17 think, and and do it. But, he has
17:19 wisely, at least to this point,
17:21 exercised restraint. It's paid off for
17:24 him. Things have moved in Russia's
17:25 direction. But, how many times you have
17:28 to put up with another Storm Shadow
17:31 missile or some UAV from Western Europe
17:34 that is launched by the Ukrainians into
17:36 Russia that kills Russians?
17:39 It's not just damaging a refinery here
17:41 and there. Those things can be repaired.
17:43 Large refineries are are very robust
17:46 entities, by the way. So,
17:48 you're not going to put it out of
17:49 business that easily. But, it's an
17:52 irritant. It's a strategic irritant.
17:54 It's embarrassing and it's frustrating
17:55 and it angers the hell out of the
17:57 population. And with good reason. I
17:59 mean, if they started hitting us
18:02 anywheres between Houston and Jersey
18:04 City, we'd be damn upset as well.
18:08 But, you know, thus far, he's he's held
18:11 back. I don't know how much longer he
18:13 can do that. See, the truth is, right
18:15 now, we are staring strategic defeat
18:19 in the eye in the Persian Gulf.
18:22 Let there be no mistake about it. We
18:24 have been militarily defeated.
18:26 We are being forced into ignominious
18:29 retreat from the region.
18:32 Once it became clear to the Iranians
18:34 that Iran would survive, they turned
18:37 their attention to the number two
18:38 objective after survival, which was and
18:41 still is the expulsion
18:44 of hostile American forces from the
18:46 region.
18:48 Now, that doesn't sit terribly well with
18:50 some of our friends in the
18:52 stateless of the Persian Gulf,
18:55 but we've demonstrated we can't protect
18:58 them, and they've reminded us of that.
19:00 And they're going to face a situation
19:02 very shortly where there's one one of
19:04 two things has to happen.
19:06 Either throw the Americans out
19:09 or we'll finish the job, and there won't
19:12 be much of you left.
19:14 And I think that's where the Iranians
19:16 are at this point. We have to also heed
19:20 the wishes of the people that live in
19:21 the region.
19:22 And I think ultimately people in the
19:24 region are going to say, you know,
19:26 we've had a good relationship, but it's
19:28 no good anymore. You really can't
19:30 protect us, and you're going to have to
19:32 leave.
19:33 And I think those are the preconditions
19:36 for some sort of peace
19:38 in the region. Now, the there's a
19:41 there's a problem here.
19:44 And that problem is
19:46 Israel. Israel.
19:49 >> Um all right,
19:50 talking about the Gulf,
19:52 um
19:53 CNN put out an article as we went live,
19:56 according to a regional official,
19:59 Gulf state leaders are concerned about
20:01 shortages of air defense munitions, and
20:02 they acknowledge these shortages could
20:04 hinder their ability to intercept
20:06 Iranian missiles and UAVs uh
20:09 drones. Iran also reportedly told Gulf
20:11 states that energy infrastructure or
20:13 water desalination sites across the
20:16 region would be struck if America
20:17 conducts new strikes against Iran. That
20:19 report was from yesterday, the second
20:20 one. So, two two pieces of information
20:23 here. Number one is unsurprisingly the
20:25 Gulf are warning that they don't have
20:26 enough interceptors and they're not
20:28 ready for a new barrage by Iran. And
20:29 number two, the Iranians have
20:32 they're I've talked to you a lot about
20:33 this in the last few days. Their rules
20:35 of engagement has changed drastically to
20:37 put Trump in a very difficult position.
20:39 One, I think they struck the ship in
20:41 Egypt. Some people say it was either a
20:42 false flag or another country or
20:44 unknown, but I think they struck the
20:45 ship in Egypt as a warning to the
20:47 Americans. They preemptively struck
20:49 Jordan and Kuwait to change, as I said,
20:51 the rules of engagement. The Iranians
20:53 are like, "Hey, if you start attacking
20:55 us or if you do anything,
20:56 we're going to decide when it stops. So,
20:58 you can't start and stop whenever you
21:00 want. And we have a bigger target base
21:02 now."
21:03 And now with this new threat that was
21:06 reported yesterday, but that came in a
21:07 few days ago, the Iranians are like,
21:09 "Any strike on our territory, any,
21:11 will result in strikes on the energy
21:13 infrastructure and civilian
21:15 infrastructure like desalination plants,
21:17 as well as US bases in the Gulf." So,
21:19 this is Iran making it clear for Trump
21:21 that either you go all in as in
21:24 gloves off, full-blown war, or you don't
21:26 strike us ever again, number one. And
21:29 then with the earlier report about their
21:30 demands on the negotiations,
21:32 they're asking for crazy fees.
21:35 Um and they're passing a pretty crazy
21:37 law. So, I don't know whether the
21:38 Iranians are putting Trump in a position
21:40 where he literally has no choice but to
21:42 do what we've discussed for months now,
21:44 and just walk away, say, "Look, I messed
21:46 up."
21:47 He'll obviously say something different,
21:49 but I'm I messed up.
21:51 I'm going to let the rest of the world
21:52 clear it.
21:54 You know, the consequences of my fuck-up
21:56 will be felt for many, many years to
21:57 come, if not decades, but I can't do
21:59 anything about it. And I don't know
22:01 whether this is what the Iranians are
22:02 forcing Trump into. Maybe that leads to
22:04 my next question is um
22:05 with all the these updates that happened
22:07 in in all the other news in the last few
22:08 days, what's more likely now in your
22:10 opinion?
22:11 Trump a deal,
22:13 Trump walking away, or um
22:16 uh back to war?
22:20 >> Well, I think [clears throat] you're
22:21 asking a question that everybody wants
22:23 an answer to.
22:24 >> Exactly.
22:25 >> I mean, people are saying, "Uh well,
22:27 he's not going to go back in and
22:28 >> Let me open. Let me open Polymarket,
22:30 Colonel. Let me open Polymarket before
22:31 you answer. All right, go ahead.
22:34 some people were saying, "No, he he's
22:36 not going to attack."
22:37 Uh I heard that the last time.
22:40 I've heard that so many times, "Oh, no,
22:41 he won't attack.
22:43 He understands the ramifications."
22:45 He does understand the ramifications.
22:48 And he made that very clear when he was
22:50 in Paris and he signed the MOU. He said,
22:52 "I don't want to be Herbert Hoover.
22:55 And I'm not going to be responsible for
22:57 the world global depression that will
23:01 result if I don't open the strait."
23:03 So, he does understand that.
23:05 But having said that, Tucker Carlson
23:08 [clears throat] also has related that
23:10 before the war started some sometime
23:12 ago, you know, you've got to go back to
23:14 2023,
23:16 Tucker brought me on his program. I
23:18 think it was in August of 2023,
23:21 up in his studio in New England,
23:25 and he asked me,
23:27 point-blank opening question,
23:30 are we on the path to war with Iran?
23:32 And I unhesitatingly said, "Yes."
23:36 Okay.
23:37 Now, some people thought I was a lunatic
23:41 and
23:42 he was a little surprised that I
23:43 answered so
23:45 straightforwardly, but I said we were.
23:47 He then subsequently reported years
23:49 later, just before all of this business
23:51 began in February,
23:53 that he had actually gone to the Oval
23:55 Office and talked to President Trump.
23:58 And that in this discussion they he he
24:00 was very straightforward about the
24:02 Iranian war probability
24:04 and he said that President Trump
24:06 understood all the pitfalls,
24:08 all the dangers, all the problems,
24:10 everything, clearly.
24:13 And he walked out of the Oval Office
24:14 with a feeling, "Well, the president
24:16 does understand the dangers,
24:18 the difficulties. This is not an easy
24:20 operation. This is not going to be over
24:22 in a few days.
24:24 And it may not work out." He understands
24:26 it.
24:27 But he started war anyway.
24:30 Now, I think it's important to hear. He
24:32 started it anyway.
24:35 Now, there are a lot of people that say,
24:37 "Well, you know, uh
24:38 this General Keane and others have said,
24:40 you know, Mr. President, this so you
24:42 know, this isn't it."
24:44 It's all crap. Why?
24:46 Keane was brought out of retirement as a
24:48 three-star,
24:49 promoted to four stars for one reason,
24:53 to go to war with Iran.
24:55 He wanted a chairman of the Joint Chiefs
24:57 who understood that's where we're
24:58 headed. He may never admit that
25:00 publicly, but that's the case.
25:03 So, everybody in the administration that
25:05 signed on early
25:07 as an Israel firster knew
25:10 we were going to go to war with Iran. It
25:12 was a question of when and how and under
25:13 what circumstances. And we started all
25:16 these visits from Mr. Netanyahu over and
25:18 over and over and over again until
25:20 finally
25:21 the war broke.
25:23 This is America's war on behalf of
25:26 Israel
25:28 for Jewish hegemony
25:30 in the Middle East.
25:33 And it ties back to New York City. It It
25:36 also is connected to uh Zelenskyy and
25:38 his regime in Kyiv because many of the
25:41 same billionaires
25:43 that we [clears throat] call Zionists
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