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Muraev on Zelensky, peace talks and Ukraine after the war
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Leans that way — check · agenda: US-Russia talks decide Ukraine's fate
Belief the Pravda network pushes: Russia and the United States should negotiate Ukraine's future without Europe, while Ukraine and the West block peace and threaten Russia.
In a live Q&A clip, Ukrainian commentator Evgeny Muraev says Zelensky wants to derail peace talks, that Ukrainian officers profit from soldiers' deaths, that Ukraine is war-weary, and that neighbouring states will close their borders once the war ends.
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“He will do everything to derail peace negotiations”
He will do everything to derail peace negotiations
The speaker blames Zelensky for blocking peace and alleges, without evidence, that commanders deliberately get soldiers killed for money, which echoes the Pravda slant. But these are largely his own opinions as an anti-Zelensky Ukrainian who says he wants peace and wishes Ukraine victory. The clip also never reaches the US-Russia talks or the Donbas proposal named in the title, so the transcript is not enough to call it clear propaganda.
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Transcript (en, 438 lines)
0:00 Here are the results of our poll today.
0:04 Thank you very much for voting.
0:07 "All or nothing"—to whom does this
0:09 opposition apply more?
0:11 12%for the USA, 20%for Ukraine, 28%for
0:14 Britain and the EU, and 39%for Russia— "
0:18 all or nothing."
0:20 That is what our audience thinks.
0:22 Thank you very much for voting. It is
0:24 very interesting, you know, how the
0:26 question sounds at the beginning, before
0:28 the broadcast, and now at the end.
0:30 Moving on to questions. Blitz mode,
0:32 Evgeny.
0:34 A question from our audience. Let's go.
0:37 Community.
0:40 Okay.
0:43 Alexander asks.
0:45 Tell us about the story with Montyan,
0:48 whom Murayev didn't pay for her work as
0:51 a host on his channel.
0:53 Just like that.
0:57 >> Friends, I have said this many times.
0:59 There are people who are affected by the
1:01 full moon.
1:02 Montyan was never an employee of the
1:04 channel. Moreover, channels are created
1:08 to promote
1:11 a political agenda, to popularize ideas
1:14 , and to make people well-known. And, as
1:18 a rule, people who come to channels or
1:21 want to be on air offer money to be let
1:24 on, not the other way around.
1:29 I don’t know where Montyan is a prima
1:31 ballerina such that Muraev would fight
1:33 for her presence on a broadcast.
1:37 But if you’ve noticed, she says a lot of
1:39 different things everywhere, and I think
1:41 she is already having certain problems
1:43 because of that.
1:46 >> Okay.
1:47 Borya Yurginsky is curious.
1:52 What are the guarantees that peace will
1:53 come after Russia agrees to a ceasefire
1:55 , which the pro-Ukrainian side keeps
1:56 talking about?
2:01 >> Once again, I didn't understand the
2:03 question. Where are the guarantees?
2:05 >> Guarantees that peace will come after
2:08 Russia agrees to a ceasefire, which
2:10 Ukraine is pushing for?
2:13 >> Dear friends, Zelensky is, once again,
2:16 the conductor of the war in Ukraine. For
2:18 Zelensky, stopping the war is like death
2:21 .
2:23 He will do everything to derail peace
2:25 negotiations, but when a consensus is
2:28 reached regarding Ukraine, when the
2:31 terms of a peace treaty are formed,
2:33 believe me—and I don’t know who in
2:36 Ukraine, besides those making money with
2:39 Zelensky, is not tired of the war.
2:43 Do you think the soldiers who have been
2:44 on the front for five years aren’t tired
2:45 ? Well, those who are in headquarters,
2:48 in bunkers, who are making money off of
2:50 dead souls there. Remember, Sasha, we
2:53 discussed how they make money from cards
2:56 ?
2:57 And you talked about Bondarenko, or
2:59 what’s his name, Romanenko, who invited
3:02 a soldier on and talked about how they
3:04 intentionally get the boys killed so
3:06 that money arrives on those cards.
3:10 Friends, I’m not a fantasist; I know
3:12 this from the military, I know what
3:14 methods of earning exist.
3:16 But basically, the regular boys who were
3:19 "busified," who were forced to fight,
3:21 want to go home.
3:24 And maybe, just like in seventeen, they
3:26 will turn around and head back with
3:28 weapons.
3:30 So, Sash, by the way, regarding your
3:34 words about feeling the end of the war—
3:38 can you imagine someone in Ukraine, with
3:43 a large YouTube following, broadcasting
3:47 words like these from a Ukrainian
3:50 soldier, which could be interpreted as
3:54 ...
3:58 an attack on the honor of the military,
4:00 or anything like that?
4:02 I mean, if this is happening, it means
4:05 there is permission for it.
4:07 This means there is already a sequence
4:10 of events preparing society even more
4:13 for war fatigue.
4:15 Sybiha, by the way, said today that
4:17 regions need to be consolidated.
4:20 Oh, my poor thing. And why is he doing
4:22 that?
4:22 >> Not Sybiha, don't confuse them. That was
4:24 Kuleba.
4:25 >> Ah, Kuleba, excuse me.
4:27 Well, Kuleba, look, he used to make some
4:30 controversial statements, he was against
4:33 Zelenskyy, then Zelenskyy invited him,
4:36 and Kuleba, our little bird, started
4:38 singing praises about how good Zelenskyy
4:41 is and how everything is being done
4:43 right.
4:46 But he is now preparing for
4:47 administrative reforms, for changing
4:50 regional borders, and consequently, the
4:53 borders of the state.
4:56 So, friends, these snippets appearing in
4:59 the information space are nothing more
5:01 than preparations for the end of the war
5:06 So it won't work out for Zelenskyy;
5:07 there is no one left who wants to fight
5:10 Everyone wants peace, everyone is tired
5:12 , nobody wants to die for the corrupt
5:14 interests of a few individuals.
5:19 >> Well, that's just the cover story. It's
5:21 Kuleba, after all, it's Kuleba.
5:23 >> Kulet.
5:25 >> He says that cursed Soviet Union
5:27 invented these districts and carved up
5:30 these regions.
5:32 And we need Volyn, there, Sivershchyna.
5:36 And so, Sivershchyna. I shared it with
5:38 you in my Telegram channel. I just don't
5:40 know. Look, people, the people right now
5:43 , well, it's a dark winter.
5:45 Everyone is keeping warm however they
5:47 can, helping each other out somehow. In
5:48 the Chernihiv region, in a border area,
5:51 they caught an 85-year-old granny
5:54 because she had firewood at home.
5:57 They came and asked, "What's with this
5:58 wood, granny?" Well, what do you mean?
6:00 The boys came by, chopped it up, I gave
6:02 them money, and they stacked it here for
6:04 me. That's it, winter is here. And where
6:06 are the documents? What documents?
6:08 That's it.
6:09 Five to seven years.
6:11 On October 10th, the Rada passed these
6:14 amendments.
6:16 And the grandma says, "Oh, what do I do
6:18 now?"
6:19 And everyone just looks at her: "Well,
6:20 what, grandma?" Five to seven years, a
6:22 criminal case for you.
6:24 It's called illegal possession of
6:26 firewood.
6:27 And this is in a country with a dark
6:30 winter, with its energy sector destroyed
6:32 , where everyone says, "Go to the
6:34 countryside," because there you can at
6:37 least throw a log in the stove, light it
6:39 , and somehow, in general, keep warm.
6:42 Here you go, the northern regions, you
6:44 understand?
6:45 Well, it's just some kind of insanity.
6:47 And like it will be easier to govern,
6:49 and the USSR is bad, you see? Well, I
6:52 mean, he's serving it up with that sauce
6:54 . That's also necessary, you can't just
6:55 brush that aside.
6:59 So, next question.
7:03 Could you please read the thought? This
7:06 is a sore subject, it’s important to me
7:08 how Evgeny will react.
7:11 Our people have been so intimidated that
7:13 even if the government changes, there is
7:15 eternal peace, and borders begin to open
7:17 gradually, people will, out of inertia,
7:19 still try to flee the country through
7:21 the woods and over barbed wire, just
7:23 like now, but with even more haste,
7:24 thinking that while there’s a chance,
7:26 they must get out.
7:30 Even if they are promised that there
7:32 will be no more war and that everything
7:34 will be fine, people will still run out
7:36 of inertia, because the state has so
7:38 discredited itself, and people are so
7:40 intimidated and scared that they will
7:42 continue to distrust the government, the
7:44 country, and others for a long time.
7:48 How will you react, Evgeny?
7:50 >> I absolutely agree with your audience,
7:53 with your subscribers, but look, I’ve
7:57 said that a new social contract is
8:00 needed, a new program that people will
8:04 accept.
8:06 If people think that borders will open
8:09 and they will just run away somewhere,
8:11 you need to be allowed in somewhere to
8:14 run to.
8:16 As soon as the war ends and a million
8:18 people return from the front, all
8:20 neighboring countries will lock
8:22 themselves off from our country with
8:24 every iron bolt they have.
8:28 If you notice, Poland is building barbed
8:30 wire and fences against us, not just
8:32 against Belarus, but against Ukraine as
8:35 well.
8:37 Why?
8:38 Because they understand that all these
8:40 people with combat experience and
8:43 military skills will join the ranks of
8:45 European organized crime, and they will
8:48 lock themselves behind every possible
8:50 bolt.
8:52 That’s why we really need, when I say: "
8:55 Guys, join in, let’s think, let’s
8:58 develop initiatives together, yes,
9:01 create a program," and it should be
9:04 shared, aimed at both external and
9:06 internal consumers, so we understand
9:09 what we’re doing and so it becomes law
9:12 after new people come to power, not
9:15 these button-pushers who want to jail
9:17 grandmothers over cords of wood,
9:21 so that there’s a clear action plan.
9:24 Otherwise, well, we won’t handle this,
9:26 and the world will definitely turn its
9:28 back on us.
9:31 And the stream chat, let’s check that as
9:32 well. Good evening from Kamchatka.
9:34 Exiled Russian oppositionists want
9:36 Russia to lose. Are you, I suppose, also
9:39 opposition? Do you personally want
9:41 Ukraine to lose?
9:43 >> I clearly distinguish between Zelensky's
9:46 loss, his personal surrender, the
9:48 failure of the global project called
9:50 Anti-Russia, and the defeat of Ukraine.
9:54 To me, these are different things.
9:56 For me, the Minsk agreements, and in
9:59 fact, pre-Maidan Ukraine, is my country
10:03 For me, Maidan was the beginning of
10:05 Ukraine's defeat.
10:08 It determined, Maidan determined the
10:10 loss, the start of the civil war, the
10:12 ATO, and then the full-scale war with
10:14 Russia.
10:16 And at every stage, I was against
10:18 continuing this war. I said that war is
10:21 worse than any other outcome.
10:24 Now, I think our citizens understand
10:26 this.
10:28 And I say once again: ending the war,
10:31 even on controversial terms that won't
10:34 initially be accepted by our society, or
10:37 at least not by all of it, is better
10:40 than continuing the war.
10:42 Because just think about Kolomoisky's
10:44 words.
10:45 He says, if the war ends, they won't
10:47 give us money, and the dollar will be
10:49 150.
10:50 So it's better to continue.
10:53 But if the war ends in 2 years, will
10:55 they give us money then? Only the dollar
10:57 will be at 300, and we'll have buried
10:59 another couple of million people.
11:00 Friends, once again, every day is
11:03 destruction, losses, deaths, and tragedy
11:06 . That's why peace is better. And I wish
11:09 Ukraine victory. And Zelensky fair
11:12 retribution.
11:14 And these are different things.
11:17 >> Uh, a question, uh, for the guest. Uh,
11:20 why did Ukraine create Space Systems
11:22 Forces? Something like that. As a
11:24 technical expert, what do you think?
11:25 What is it for? Are they really dreaming
11:28 of, uh, oh, threatening provocations in
11:31 space, or is it just another banal theft
11:34 of funds, or what is it?
11:37 >> In 2020, they closed all, uh,
11:39 psychiatric dispensaries here. And most
11:42 of them broke out and ended up in the
11:44 Verkhovna Rada. One could create not
11:47 only, uh, such units.
11:50 For space exploration, building rockets
11:52 , and launching satellites, you need
11:55 colossal amounts of money.
11:58 And we have nothing to eat.
12:01 It is simply impossible for the country
12:03 to service its national debt or pay
12:05 decent, dignified salaries and pensions
12:08 What space forces?
12:11 Well, I say again, this is sluggish
12:13 schizophrenia, but in an aggressive form
12:19 >> Right, good day to you. I have visited
12:21 Ukraine many times. Such a beautiful
12:23 country and very good people.
12:25 The question is, when will all this
12:27 return? Sergey.
12:32 >> Well, that Ukraine will probably no
12:34 longer exist. It will be different.
12:37 I hope
12:41 for the better.
12:43 This is, of course, an ambitious,
12:46 ambitious task, but Sasha, when you
12:49 build from scratch, it's better than
12:52 rebuilding or restoring something, right
12:55 ? We will have to build from scratch.
12:57 And, by the way, there are a lot of
12:59 bright ideas, right?
13:01 In particular, we have Alexander
13:03 Vladimirovich, a like-minded person who
13:05 is currently accumulating all possible
13:08 ideas.
13:10 I’ve seen new cities, I’ve seen how
13:13 China engages in urban planning,
13:15 designing all sorts of spaces, logistics
13:18 , autonomous transport, yes, zoning new
13:21 areas with completely fresh approaches.
13:26 And I think if the leadership is
13:28 oriented correctly and plans the
13:30 reconstruction properly, instead of just
13:33 taking it literally—that we must rebuild
13:37 these destroyed houses—and builds new
13:39 cities instead, then Ukraine could have
13:42 a chance to become much better in terms
13:45 of infrastructure.
13:48 When the kindness and warmth of the
13:51 people return—the kind your viewer is
13:53 talking about, Sash—I think that will be
13:56 when their emotional wounds have healed
13:59 I think it will take a fairly long time
14:02 for people to recover from
14:04 post-traumatic stress, to get some sleep
14:07 , yes, stop being startled by loud
14:10 noises, yes, reacting to the sound of
14:13 mopeds, and just be able to start
14:15 talking calmly and expressing their
14:18 opinions again.
14:20 Many have closed themselves off because
14:23 society has become divided, and I speak
14:26 with many people. People say you no
14:28 longer know who you can talk to openly,
14:31 who might betray you, sell you out, or
14:33 turn you in. That’s why everyone is
14:35 shutting down, and this is indeed a
14:37 different Ukraine. But let's believe in
14:40 the best. I hope that we will be able to
14:43 fix all of this. Well, at least we will
14:45 try.
14:47 >> Uh-huh.
14:49 What is the basis for the optimism and
14:51 confidence that the US is interested in
14:53 the prosperity of the rare-earth regions
14:55 of Russia and is ready to invest in
14:57 their development? Is this not the art
15:00 of deceiving our wild fantasies? That is
15:04 the question.
15:05 >> My friends, look. Well, the United
15:07 States, they are capitalists. You’ve
15:09 seen their proposal, right?
15:12 I was just clutching my heart today, I
15:14 was literally laughing—Kushnir, Vitkov—
15:17 they proposed changing the border of the
15:20 Donetsk region so Putin could report
15:22 that he captured everything, while
15:25 Ukraine wouldn't lose anything.
15:30 I mean, tell me, how can anyone wrap
15:31 their head around that?
15:33 They have a completely different
15:35 mentality. I wrote a post about this
15:37 today, yes.
15:38 They won't understand us—neither
15:40 Ukrainians nor Russians, because to them
15:43 we are all Russian—until they understand
15:46 three Russian proverbs.
15:48 "We don't use that ointment,""Our geese
15:50 don't fly that way," and "You can't be a
15:52 little bit pregnant."
15:54 What they are proposing is exactly that
15:56 : being a little bit pregnant.
15:58 They don't understand us, we don't
15:59 understand them, which is why the
16:00 negotiations are going so sluggishly.
16:02 But they are capitalists.
16:04 They definitely want to get their money
16:07 back; they are interested in at least
16:10 ending the war and, perhaps, they could
16:13 invest, increase the added value, and
16:15 profit from our natural resources.
16:19 They are colonialists; it’s second
16:21 nature to them. And considering that
16:23 Butkevich, there...
16:27 Akhmetov, yes, is already investing
16:29 money in the development and extraction
16:31 of rare earth metals, so I understand
16:33 that this means there are already some
16:35 agreements with the United States.
16:37 They wouldn't just be investing money
16:39 like that. This means there are
16:40 guarantees that the States will stay and
16:43 will be interested in a peaceful
16:44 settlement for Russia.
16:48 Just like for Belarus, Poland, Slovakia
16:52 , Moldova, Hungary,
16:57 it is profitable, and they are
16:59 interested in having peace in Ukraine.
17:02 Because, once again, a point of
17:04 confrontation, a boiling point on the
17:06 borders of their own states threatens
17:09 the safety of their own citizens.
17:11 Therefore, they will also try to do
17:13 everything to keep it from boiling over
17:16 I believe in that, yes, but once again—
17:18 you have to fight for it too.
17:20 And first and foremost, Ukrainians must
17:22 fight.
17:23 If we don't overcome this desire to form
17:26 a military parliament and sink into
17:29 revanchism, we will lose the country.
17:33 If we can handle this, we have enough
17:36 chances and belief that it is possible
17:39 to cope with it.
17:43 >> Yevhen Murayev was our guest today.
17:45 Thank you for your time and thoughts.
17:47 >> Thanks, Sasha, for the airtime. Thanks
17:49 to your viewers.
17:51 Friends, peace and kindness. Everything
17:53 will be fine, everything is moving in
17:55 the right direction. If Zelensky is
17:57 nervous, if he’s throwing a tantrum, it
18:00 means the world is moving in the right
18:03 direction. Take care.
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